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Old 11-12-2013, 09:44 AM #43
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I want to see the internals because I'm curious...

As to who they stole from this time

I'm now convinced that Machine can't or won't create anything that doesn't look heavily reminiscent of something already on the market. First thing that popped into my head when I saw this was "Rotor".


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That's a lot of ambiguous bullet points. I'd hope the feed system is "Obstruction free".

I'll be curious to see more details.
Old marketing technique. They did a wonderful job of being very wordy and making everything sound super technical. Lets see what I can re-word.

- Ultra dense, high impact, nylon injection molded body shells
- Neutral tension silent drive
- Obstruction free feed system (Balls fall into the feedneck like they should)
- Weatherized electronics
- Tactile proximity sensor power activation (???)
- Single lens depth focus eye system
- Tool free dis-assembly
- High capacity body shell with expanded capacity accessory option (200 balls like everyone else with bigger shells option)
- Linear fiber reinforced feed neck (Ultra dense, high impact, nylon injection molded body shells....which we already said)
- “Paintball Player-proof” construction (Ultra dense, high impact, nylon injection molded body shells....oh and easy assembly)
- Peripheral body scalloping for improved point-firing target acquisition (low profile hopper)
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Old 11-12-2013, 09:47 AM #44
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I'm 99% sure machine is deleting any and all negative feedback from their FB debut. I always get a kick out of companies that do that. Second of all if I read correctly, the people who bought the original vapor only get a loader if they held onto it.
They've said all along it would transfer as long as it was registered in time and the new owner updatwd the registration. Otherwise the loader would go to whoever it is registered under
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Old 11-12-2013, 09:52 AM #45
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- Tactile proximity sensor power activation (???)
If I'm not mistaken they are saying that the on/off button is similar to that of the newer Xbox360. Slide your finger across the eject or power button to activate them instead of having to push a button.
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I'm now convinced that Machine can't or won't create anything that doesn't look heavily reminiscent of something already on the market. First thing that popped into my head when I saw this was "Rotor".




Old marketing technique. They did a wonderful job of being very wordy and making everything sound super technical. Lets see what I can re-word.

- Ultra dense, high impact, nylon injection molded body shells
- Neutral tension silent drive
- Obstruction free feed system (Balls fall into the feedneck like they should)
- Weatherized electronics
- Tactile proximity sensor power activation (???)
- Single lens depth focus eye system
- Tool free dis-assembly
- High capacity body shell with expanded capacity accessory option (200 balls like everyone else with bigger shells option)
- Linear fiber reinforced feed neck (Ultra dense, high impact, nylon injection molded body shells....which we already said)
- “Paintball Player-proof” construction (Ultra dense, high impact, nylon injection molded body shells....oh and easy assembly)
- Peripheral body scalloping for improved point-firing target acquisition (low profile hopper)
Hahaha I'm so glad some other people noticed this. I wonder if that would be an example of "magic ingredients"? Its been a while since my Media lit. class.

This ia a lot like what DP did for their advertisement for the G5. Kinda makes my blood boil thinking about how they must awe new players or gullible people info buying them with their pseudo-technical speak.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:30 AM #47
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It actually...I can't....how....what...?

I'm speechless. I can't believe they've actually delivered (sort of).
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:31 AM #48
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Tactile sensor = pinokio bend switch.

As far as I can tell it IS a pinokio internally (not a true force fed, bend sensor) and they're clearly aped the look and feel of the rotor. Problem is, if well executed, that's not a bad combo.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:40 AM #49
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Old marketing technique. They did a wonderful job of being very wordy and making everything sound super technical. Lets see what I can re-word.
You're good at that, must come from being so familiar with PE.




Looks like it has a window at the bottom for those who cant tell when they need to reload.
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I bet pinokio with eyes or eggy internals. Both are solid guts for shooting brittle paint at 15pbs.

I would be shocked if its something not copied.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:05 AM #51
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If I'm not mistaken they are saying that the on/off button is similar to that of the newer Xbox360. Slide your finger across the eject or power button to activate them instead of having to push a button.
That would be sketchy. You can look at the new 360 wrong and it turns on/off.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:10 AM #52
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Hahaha I'm so glad some other people noticed this. I wonder if that would be an example of "magic ingredients"? Its been a while since my Media lit. class.

This ia a lot like what DP did for their advertisement for the G5. Kinda makes my blood boil thinking about how they must awe new players or gullible people info buying them with their pseudo-technical speak.
This is what pe does with every marker they sell as well.
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The weathered boards must be like the boards in cell phones and other mobile electronics where the board wont fry immediatlely if it gets wet, or they just created a weather proof area for the board to sit in.

Scalloped sides to me means they made it a little more narrow where you would normally sight down the side of the hopper along the top of your marker so you get a better field of vision.

The rest are mostly points that are now basics when it comes to making a hopper, better material that wont break, tooless dissassembly, window, capacity etc. Def would like to see the internals and what they resemble the most.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:43 AM #54
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This is what pe does with every marker they sell as well.
It's what every company does to one extent or another. It's a very basic practice in marketing. Machine just took it to another level with this hopper. Especially that last bullet point. Long *** overly wordy way of saying "low profile".
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Scalloped sides to me means they made it a little more narrow where you would normally sight down the side of the hopper along the top of your marker so you get a better field of vision.
In other words.....low profile. Lol
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:54 AM #56
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Any body else think it looks like a rotor?
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No, you are the only one.
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Low profile potatoes.
Exactly what Machine was looking for!
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Tactile sensor = pinokio bend switch.

As far as I can tell it IS a pinokio internally (not a true force fed, bend sensor) and they're clearly aped the look and feel of the rotor. Problem is, if well executed, that's not a bad combo.
Pretty much hits the nail on the head. Once again we meet the X has sex with Y and makes Z of paintball.

Rotor shell + Pinokio internals = Gear Loader?

I love my pinokio, never had a jam in it BUT with that being said, it was terrible to clean. They put these square type shells inside the feedneck that would collect paint sweat and cause the feedneck to basically gunk up the breach of my markers. This would work its way into the bolt and the barrel and cause some pretty nasty inconsistencies that I never experienced with my rotor.

I've put so many cases through my rotor without cleaning it and never found a spec of dirt or grunge in it. I cleaned my pinokio almost religiously and would never be able to get it to the point where it didn't gunk up my breaches. Oh well....

Also, pinokio internals do not do well with rain.. it caused full spin or no spin... either way it caused issues and burn outs. After dry everything was fine though!
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Challenge accepted!!!

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In other words.....low profile. Lol
I guess, when I think low profile I think about the top to bottom measurements, not taking away some of thewidth with the scalloped areas. But I could be wrong in my understanding of the term.
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I guess, when I think low profile I think about the top to bottom measurements, not taking away some of thewidth with the scalloped areas. But I could be wrong in my understanding of the term.
I can see where you're coming from.. low vs slim profile.
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