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Old 10-27-2013, 01:58 PM #22
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Hey dreadmuppet,

When you look into the opening where the orange plug was, do you see any part of the black plastic bumper/spacer guide piece in there? The #17 piece you referenced earlier.
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Old 10-28-2013, 12:43 PM #23
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All I recall seeing was the pin. I have the gun put back together and waiting for a response from DP.
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:20 PM #24
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All I recall seeing was the pin. I have the gun put back together and waiting for a response from DP.
Alright. I was just thinking/hoping that it was a piece of that #17 part that was jamming things up.

If you have a chance, I suggest giving DP a call instead of waiting for an email response. I find that calling is the best way to get ahold of someone there. They may also be able to help you right over the phone. Good luck and be sure to let us know what happened since this kinda has some of us stumped. Thanks.
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I received a response from DP about a week after shipping (cross country). they apparently got the pin and bumper out fairly easily (I totally loosened it for them ). After reassembling the gun there is a noticeable leak. They fear it may be the body its self and are getting a new one from the factory to test my internals with. If the body is damaged a new one will cost $189.

If I have to drop that much cash I am thinking I may just want to buy a new gun. Possibly another FX or something completely different. I love the FX but it is only the second gun I have bought in a decade of playing and I would like to try something else out, maybe a spoolie. My question is how much can I sell the rest of the FX parts for?
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Old 11-11-2013, 03:34 PM #26
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I wouldnt purchase another FX at this moment if i were you. I would wait to see if they revise the fusion next year.
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Old 11-11-2013, 09:23 PM #27
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I would not buy an FX. They did not live up to the Fusion reputation. the DP G5 would be a better choice.


Other good choices are the Axe and Mac Dev Drone. Both are priced on the lower end of the spectrum and perform better than the FX.
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Old 11-11-2013, 09:32 PM #28
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Or find a used F8 if you just have got to have that kind of marker. I love my F8. Solid marker and the only issue you might have is getting parts, but the parts do not fail often soooo that may not be an issue either
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Old 12-18-2013, 01:05 PM #29
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Wow DP takes a long time. Just wanted to let everyone know what happened.

Apparently DP had no issue get the parts out that had been stuck for me but upon reassembly there was a leak. After testing they confirmed the leak was due to damage to the valve (read: body of the gun) itself.

11/4 - Shipped gun to DP.
11/8 - DP contacts me and says they had no issue getting the gun apart but when reassembled it leaks. After testing they surmise it is the body that leaks and they need to order a new one to test it.
11/25 - A new body (finally) arrives at DP's test facility.
11/27 - It is concluded the new body fixes the leak.
11/28 - I tell DP I do not wish to purchase a new body and to charge me for any repair/test fees.
12/13 - DP (finally) give me the cost. They were awesome enough to only charge me for shipping but why did it take two weeks to tell me?
12/16 - I give DP my credit card info.
12/16 - Gun ships.

It is unfortunate the issue with my gun would cost 40% of the cost of a new one to fix and i certainly do not harbor bad feelings for that. I very much appreciate not being charged. I am just fairly annoyed it took 6 weeks and i had to push them with multiple emails and calls to the next step every time.
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Old 12-18-2013, 03:07 PM #30
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sad part is the work involved really only takes an hour or so.

replacing a valve and re assembling is not exactly difficult.
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:10 AM #31
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So dreadmuppet, are you going to try and fix your FX body? I'm just guessing here but I would think that the only issue is that there is a nick or deep scratch on the poppet side face of the valve itself. It may be possible to sand it down a little to sand out the uneven surface and be rollin' again.

Just thinking out of the box anyway.
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So dreadmuppet, are you going to try and fix your FX body? I'm just guessing here but I would think that the only issue is that there is a nick or deep scratch on the poppet side face of the valve itself. It may be possible to sand it down a little to sand out the uneven surface and be rollin' again.

Just thinking out of the box anyway.
I wonder if you could use one of those LED inspection snake camera things if someone has one, to take a closer look at the bad part inside of the body. That is if someone you know has access to something like that, and would be willing to let you borrow it.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee...-21/202932657#

Maybe if the damage is not too bad you could sand it like CA says, or maybe even "shim" it somehow?
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CA I am thinking what you are about there being nick or something. I would think however any sanding would cause more of a leak as it would widen the valve. I think my only option would be widen the valve (which I do not have the ability to do evenly) AND get a custom valve pin that is larger to fit the new valve size (which would have to be custom manufactured).

My plan is to see if anyone wants to buy the marker for a fair parts price. If not I will just hang on to it and give parts to friends that own FXs.
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Actually, you wouldn't be widening it at all. What would need sanding is the front rim of the valve, not the inside circumference. It is the rim that makes contact with the seal on the valve pin (poppet) and that is likely where a nick would allow a leak past the pin.

EDIT: Think of this. Put your hand over the top of a cup. It is the top rim surface of that cup that is making a seal with your hand. Now, think of that rim having a chip in it. That is where the leak would be. What would need to be done is to sand down that rim so that it is flat and smooth again so the whole surface of that ram makes contact with the hand again. Does that make sense?
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A bit. Hopefully more once i have the gun back in my hands. Thanks for the tip.
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A bit. Hopefully more once i have the gun back in my hands. Thanks for the tip.
Yup. Can't say for sure that doing a little sanding/polishing would fix it for sure but.........it sounds like you don't have much to lose at this point. Still, sucks that it is jacked. Sorry man.
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I finally got around to pulling my FX out of the box and airing it up to determine how bad the leak is. NO LEAK. So I turn the eyes off to fire it and it does NOT fire. I look for my manual to troubleshoot and it seems DP though they needed it more than I did and kept it.

Aired up, eyes off, new battery and solenoid is "clicking" but the gun is not firing. Thoughts?
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Congrats on the no leak

Wow. That thing just doesn't like you, does it? It's being such a tease.

Not firing could be many things.

-enough air from HPR?
-too much air from HPR?
-solenoid needs some TLC?
-worn/bad o-ring on tail of ram?
-air passageway(s) blocked?
-not enough air TO the HPR?
-noid dwell too low?
-need some lube somewhere? Noid, ram, HPR...etc.

I'm sure I probably missed a couple.
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Thanks. I am going to get my tank filled this weekend (only has about 1.5k in it) and do a complete disassemble and re-lube.
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I disassembled the entire gun. Clean but dry as a bone. I lubricated the orings then assembled. Airing the gun up and it dumps air out of the barrel again. A far cry from the slight leak DP said there was. But at least I have the same problem I originally had.

Would the small scratches on the thin dark inner circle below cause such a leak?

Also, should part 15 come out at all? If it should I think it is missing? If it should come out after 14 or 23 please let me know.










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I disassembled the entire gun. Clean but dry as a bone. I lubricated the orings then assembled. Airing the gun up and it dumps air out of the barrel again. A far cry from the slight leak DP said there was. But at least I have the same problem I originally had.

Would the small scratches on the thin dark inner circle below cause such a leak?

Also, should part 15 come out at all? If it should I think it is missing? If it should come out after 14 or 23 please let me know.


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I can't really tell by the pics (and it is probably impossible to get pics any better than what you have) but I don't see anything that jumps out and says "problem" other than it looks like you ARE missing part #15 . Can't say for sure but it looks like it isn't there. I don't thing scratches on the "inner circle" would cause a leak. The sealing surface is between the back side of the pin (part #16) and the most outer circle in your pics. Part # 15 acts as a guide for the pin - to keep it centered in the "valve" area. I think you would need some dings, scratches, etc. on the face of that outer circle and/or the black rubber-like material on the back side of the pin (part #16) is cracked up, missing chunks, deep cuts, etc.

I'm wondering if the pin just isn't seating flush (perfectly perpendicular) to that "valve" face because you don't have the part #15 guide piece in place.
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Well then...I better call up DP and tell them they left a part off my gun.
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