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Old 10-23-2013, 08:26 AM #253
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I would be more upset about the absence of the "smoother, more efficient" bolt which actually affects performance than a convenience like the quick release cap.
I have to agree with this. For this reason I am going to wait till the 4 comes out, and keep using my current Eclipse markers. I really don't care about colour, barrel tips or milling. It is all about performance and reliability for me. That's why I use Eclipse to begin with.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:42 AM #254
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Fanboy I am not. Most reasonable people understand the logic and economics behind these two versions and their features. But you're right, next time Jack and Co. should come to you when deciding when/how to release their products. Frankly, following your line of reasoning I would be more upset about the absence of the "smoother, more efficient" bolt which actually affects performance than a convenience like the quick release cap.
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I have to agree with this. For this reason I am going to wait till the 4 comes out, and keep using my current Eclipse markers. I really don't care about colour, barrel tips or milling. It is all about performance and reliability for me. That's why I use Eclipse to begin with.
Ok, so maybe im the only one who can read, cuz I just read eclipse's website about the gsl and its features of the new bolt. I don't think it said anywhere that its smoother, actually, it says they've found a way to make it more efficient without sacrificing quality of the shot. So the "completely new" geo bolt is being advertised as just a more efficient one, and in the day of people using 70s and 77s I really couldn't care. But this is a case of you reading what you want to see on the screen. In short, its no smoother but more efficient than a geo3, which has no impact on me what-so-ever. So please, tell me again about my line of reasoning. Also my geo3 would get 9 pods and hopper off a 68 so one more pod at those numbers isn't getting me going.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:03 AM #255
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Ok, so maybe im the only one who can read, cuz I just read eclipse's website about the gsl and its features of the new bolt. I don't think it said anywhere that its smoother, actually, it says they've found a way to make it more efficient without sacrificing quality of the shot. So the "completely new" geo bolt is being advertised as just a more efficient one, and in the day of people using 70s and 77s I really couldn't care. But this is a case of you reading what you want to see on the screen. In short, its no smoother but more efficient than a geo3, which has no impact on me what-so-ever. So please, tell me again about my line of reasoning. Also my geo3 would get 9 pods and hopper off a 68 so one more pod at those numbers isn't getting me going.
You haven't read a lot of this thread then (I mean who can blame you? Lol). The reason people are saying it's smoother is due to players saying it's smoother. I'm not saying they are right, just there are some who are taking the word of these players. To me, we will see whenever it comes out.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:05 AM #256
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I didn't say I was against what you said, I just said I agree with what he said about a better bolt or performance change in the 3.1 or otherwise I am not interested and will wait till the 4. In fact if the only difference on the 3.1 is the grips and gas line, why just not add everything and come out with the 4 and all the improvements.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:08 AM #257
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Though I have to admit from reading the info at ANS gear on the GSL it does look like a lot of upgrades other than just milling and extra barrel tips. It seems pretty tempting, but I am assuming the 4 will have all that minus the milling and the barrel tips and other flashy extras.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:11 AM #258
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Honestly the fact that anyone complains that paintball markers made in the last 2 years have "too much kick" are a bit ridiculous to me. If you can't control a marker to stay on target while shooting 12.5bps go grab a semi auto .223 rifle and pull re trigger as fast as you can and try to stay on target. Then pick your marker up and like magic the recoil is virtually non existent!!!! The only reason I would get a GSL over a 3.1 is to get the SL just cuz it's an SL. I like the rarity and the pure color is ridiculously amazing!!!! They are all still great guns so pick your favorite and go paint faces!!!!
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:14 AM #259
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I didn't say I was against what you said, I just said I agree with what he said about a better bolt or performance change in the 3.1 or otherwise I am not interested and will wait till the 4. In fact if the only difference on the 3.1 is the grips and gas line, why just not add everything and come out with the 4 and all the improvements.
perfect question that sums up my annoyance with the 3.1 release. Its just a time-filling model to make a dollar from a company that said they wouldn't do that anymore. Just to see everyone praise them for that, then not even mention it when PE boldy slap everyone in the face with a new one makes me laugh.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:41 AM #260
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Honestly the fact that anyone complains that paintball markers made in the last 2 years have "too much kick" are a bit ridiculous to me. If you can't control a marker to stay on target while shooting 12.5bps go grab a semi auto .223 rifle and pull re trigger as fast as you can and try to stay on target. Then pick your marker up and like magic the recoil is virtually non existent!!!! The only reason I would get a GSL over a 3.1 is to get the SL just cuz it's an SL. I like the rarity and the pure color is ridiculously amazing!!!! They are all still great guns so pick your favorite and go paint faces!!!!
When technology has advance paintball markers to the point of near perfection, people are going to be concerned about the most minute aspects of a marker these days because perfection is demanded at $1,300+ asking prices. So yes a marker having too much kick or elimnating kick is completely valid.

By the way comparing a firearm to a paintball gun is ridiculous kick or not.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:58 AM #261
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I just wish the preorders would start so I can place one and then will have no need to check back on this thread as much
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Old 10-23-2013, 11:19 AM #262
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I know this thread is all about the Geo 3.1

But I noticed in the pictures, to the right of the Geo 3.1 it says EGO….

Is there a new Ego that is releasing as well? I'm more of a pop-it guy, so i'm just curious.

anybody?
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Old 10-23-2013, 11:33 AM #263
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I know this thread is all about the Geo 3.1 But I noticed in the pictures, to the right of the Geo 3.1 it says EGO…. Is there a new Ego that is releasing as well? I'm more of a pop-it guy, so i'm just curious. anybody?
Thats the current LV1 you are seeing
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Old 10-23-2013, 11:45 AM #264
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Kinda off topic but they could call it a slave SLLV haha kryotonice 3.1 is the tits
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Old 10-23-2013, 01:07 PM #265
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The rep on the webcast said only 300 would be available for sale in the US. I'm pretty sure those will get eaten up with or without the release of the 3.1
Ive been hearing conflicting numbers since word spread on the GSL.
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:59 PM #266
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Honestly, I do not get the point of this gun. The LV1 is already as smooth as it gets, and it is more air efficient. I would buy that first any day. I'm not going to say I'm disappointed, I just wouldn't buy it myself.
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:15 PM #267
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Honestly, I do not get the point of this gun. The LV1 is already as smooth as it gets, and it is more air efficient. I would buy that first any day. I'm not going to say I'm disappointed, I just wouldn't buy it myself.
Some people don't like the look of a stack tube marker and you have less chance of getting dirt in your firing chamber with a spool. That appeals to snake players that almost kiss the dirt making their bunkers.

As for the GSL I heard the or rep say 300 for sale on the US. That's the number the PE REP threw out so if imagine it's pretty accurate. Also if you think they will provably also sell 300 in the UK and then 150 for teams and employees and other special people.
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:31 PM #268
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Some people don't like the look of a stack tube marker and you have less chance of getting dirt in your firing chamber with a spool. That appeals to snake players that almost kiss the dirt making their bunkers.

As for the GSL I heard the or rep say 300 for sale on the US. That's the number the PE REP threw out so if imagine it's pretty accurate. Also if you think they will provably also sell 300 in the UK and then 150 for teams and employees and other special people.
Pro teams tend not to shoot SL markers that often it seems. You didn't see many shooting the SLS or CSL. Now that could change as many seem to prefer to shoot poppets. Guess we will see
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I think it's brilliant. Release info about the GSL. People want it but dont want to pay the price. Right after release the Geo 3.1 those that want an extremely silimar marker can now pay a cheaper price.

Result: Profit
Except for the people who bought dm14's because they didn't want to pay the price.
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Ok, so maybe im the only one who can read, cuz I just read eclipse's website about the gsl and its features of the new bolt. I don't think it said anywhere that its smoother, actually, it says they've found a way to make it more efficient without sacrificing quality of the shot. So the "completely new" geo bolt is being advertised as just a more efficient one, and in the day of people using 70s and 77s I really couldn't care. But this is a case of you reading what you want to see on the screen. In short, its no smoother but more efficient than a geo3, which has no impact on me what-so-ever. So please, tell me again about my line of reasoning. Also my geo3 would get 9 pods and hopper off a 68 so one more pod at those numbers isn't getting me going.
greenspan and a few other pros/techs/shop workers have mentioned smoother and quieter than the 3...

now whether they are saying that because of sponsorship requirements or reality is up to the viewer

BUT lurker did mention "It certainly looks as though Jack's affected some change to the air delivery - flow through ports should significantly change the pressure rise time compared to the "DUMP" of previous geos - much more of a muted sound signature, like a shocker or Luxe."

and he is usually right.... so smoother and quiter is potentially possible with the redesign of the drivetrain
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It's not about being a rocket scientist. It's pretty simple to understand, yet most aren't.

Besides, you can't even handle the simple task of quoting properly. I can see how you wouldn't understand. Case and F'n point.
Actually I was saying what I had heard from another source. I haven't read the previous 10 pages. I'm sorry I don't spend my life on a forum being a Internet tough guy. Get a life! I would love to see you mouth off to my face. also It's not my fault the quote button didn't work J.o.
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