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Old 08-29-2013, 03:01 PM #85
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Honestly never heard of someone selling their spire for a z2...
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Old 08-29-2013, 03:21 PM #86
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I don't think output pressure would have a huge effect on overall efficiency. However, output pressure will definitely affect your recharge rate and overall consistency. Anywhere from 550-650 is good, 600 is the magic number. I was at 500, horrible recharge, single shot would drop from 200psi to ~145. In a full stream, closer to 110. Found the two thinnest shims I have, pressure up to 600, recharge on a single shot fell from 200 to ~185, inna stream down to ~165. Huge improvement.
Optimum number is 550. As stated many times Which is why ninja made an smp reg with 550 output pretty much designed for the luxe. So 550 is the magic number to be correct
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Optimum number is 550. As stated many times Which is why ninja made an smp reg with 550 output pretty much designed for the luxe. So 550 is the magic number to be correct
How much is that reg by the way? Any different then the non branded regs?
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Honestly never heard of someone selling their spire for a z2...
I'm not saying anything is wrong with the spire but there is nothing special about it. The Z2 is nice and I haven't had any problems with it.
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I'm not saying anything is wrong with the spire but there is nothing special about it. The Z2 is nice and I haven't had any problems with it.
The same debate pops up about the Rotor. PLEASE DON'T START THAT AGAIN.

I jumped from V1 Prophecy directly to a used Spire because the extended nose cone wasn't available for the Z2 at that time. I am not saying the Z2's are bad either, and used I bet they are easier on the pocket. For me after using the Spire, I'm staying. Only problem I ever had was pulsing constantly which eventually broke down the rubber drive cone paddles. Just finished talking to them, and they are sending me a new board and paddles.
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Optimum number is 550. As stated many times Which is why ninja made an smp reg with 550 output pretty much designed for the luxe. So 550 is the magic number to be correct
Hrmm really? I always thought since the maxflow for the luxe was set at 600, that would be optimum.
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Just got a spire and I like it over my z2 and rotor
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only problem i had with my z2 was that i felt the shell was fragile.never broke it though.it is certainly not as durable as a spire/rotor
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only problem i had with my z2 was that i felt the shell was fragile.never broke it though.it is certainly not as durable as a spire/rotor
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only problem i had with my z2 was that i felt the shell was fragile.never broke it though.it is certainly not as durable as a spire/rotor
This is the exact opposite I've felt. The rotor and Z2 are tanks compared to the spire in my opinion. That being said I have a Spire now. For some reason I would always get 4-5 balls stuck in the nose of the Z2 and would have them break or melt since I didn't realize they were there. Happened 4 or 5 times before I sold it. Plus, the ease of taking apart the Spire is too good a thing to pass up. Have a rotor with a soft arm as my back up and love it, just loud as hell when i'm out of paint.

All in all, you really can't go wrong with any of the big 3 and the "winner" will always come down to personal preference.
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This is the exact opposite I've felt. The rotor and Z2 are tanks compared to the spire in my opinion. That being said I have a Spire now. For some reason I would always get 4-5 balls stuck in the nose of the Z2 and would have them break or melt since I didn't realize they were there. Happened 4 or 5 times before I sold it. Plus, the ease of taking apart the Spire is too good a thing to pass up. Have a rotor with a soft arm as my back up and love it, just loud as hell when i'm out of paint.

All in all, you really can't go wrong with any of the big 3 and the "winner" will always come down to personal preference.
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All in all, you really can't go wrong with any of the big 3 and the "winner" will always come down to personal preference.
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