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Old 09-14-2013, 07:56 AM #820
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I think this is BS! Tonton`s got punished way to hard! Yes they had hot guns,but so did Aftershock. Aftershock had 3 hot guns,one Cep player shot 405
but no one talks about that??
Is it because they are American teams and Tonton is not, this feels a little OC 06 Joy vs Dynasty. you cant beat an American team in the Us..
Dont get me wrong here,but it feels like the european teams get harder punishment when they do something,than the teams from Us does? That is why I wonder. Everybody talks about tonton, but what about CEP??? 405 fps ?? that is HOT!
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Old 09-14-2013, 08:24 AM #821
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I think this is BS! Tonton`s got punished way to hard! Yes they had hot guns,but so did Aftershock. Aftershock had 3 hot guns,one Cep player shot 405
but no one talks about that??
Is it because they are American teams and Tonton is not, this feels a little OC 06 Joy vs Dynasty. you cant beat an American team in the Us..
Dont get me wrong here,but it feels like the european teams get harder punishment when they do something,than the teams from Us does? That is why I wonder. Everybody talks about tonton, but what about CEP??? 405 fps ?? that is HOT!
1. Aftershock had 'two' hot guns.
2. CEP was punished and so was Aftershock.
3. Yes, everyone is talking about that.
4. Then why did the PSP invite Tontons to come play Pro in the first place?
5. If you can't beat American teams, explain the Russian Legion and Edmonton Impact.
6. No, they don't. It's just martyrs like yourself screaming foul play.
7. The difference between CEP or Aftershock and Tontons is that Tontons knew their guns were hot and still walked on the field. They admitted to this and I don't even think they are disputing their punishment.
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Old 09-14-2013, 09:29 AM #822
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Wasn't the CEP gun found to have a broken reg or something which made it go up to 405?
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Old 09-15-2013, 06:06 PM #823
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1. Aftershock had 'two' hot guns.
2. CEP was punished and so was Aftershock.
3. Yes, everyone is talking about that.
4. Then why did the PSP invite Tontons to come play Pro in the first place?
5. If you can't beat American teams, explain the Russian Legion and Edmonton Impact.
6. No, they don't. It's just martyrs like yourself screaming foul play.
7. The difference between CEP or Aftershock and Tontons is that Tontons knew their guns were hot and still walked on the field. They admitted to this and I don't even think they are disputing their punishment.
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Old 09-16-2013, 01:55 PM #824
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WOW, we made it 40 pages deep!!!!! WTF?

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Old 09-18-2013, 10:09 AM #825
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Ok I've only had this conversation with many professional gun techs certified by most gun manufactures.

In your minds, dwell being jacked way up, releasing more air doesn't increase velocity? So the higher pressure that comes with higher dwell in order to eliminate fsdo doesn't add velocity? So all that extra pressure doesn't really exist then? Ok makes sense. Lol
Think about it this way. (Matrix experts feel free to correct me here...)

If I set my (non-existent) DM to have a dwell of 10,000, hypothetically the bolt would cycle forward and not come back until the 10,000 ms mark had been reached. Would there be air released (down the barrel) during this period? As long as your o-rings are in good shape, there shouldn't. The shot chamber has been emptied and is closed from the supply.

That's what we're trying to tell you. The dwell on DMs does not control the pressure or volume of air released.
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Old 09-19-2013, 12:04 AM #826
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Why am I not surprised? This is one of the reasons I stopped playing for a few years....cheating bastards always shooting hot and crap like that. Nice to see it's still going on. And you bet your *** they did it on purpose. Trust me, they knew exactly what they were doing.

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Old 09-19-2013, 11:34 PM #827
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Think about it this way. (Matrix experts feel free to correct me here...)

If I set my (non-existent) DM to have a dwell of 10,000, hypothetically the bolt would cycle forward and not come back until the 10,000 ms mark had been reached. Would there be air released (down the barrel) during this period? As long as your o-rings are in good shape, there shouldn't. The shot chamber has been emptied and is closed from the supply.

That's what we're trying to tell you. The dwell on DMs does not control the pressure or volume of air released.

So I've never owned a Matrix, but the DM13 manual does say: "When ABS is activated, the dwell is increased after 15 seconds of non-use for the next shot fired. This helps to prevent bolt-stick, but may result in higher velocity for the first shot."

Does it only increase velocity if the dwell was set improperly in the first place?
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Old 09-24-2013, 02:27 PM #828
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why didn't the refs check this at the beginning or did they just havea nob to turn it up I don't think so it sound fishy to me
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