Originally Posted by BurningPlaydoh
It will be interesting to see the comparisons between this and the Torque. They sound kinda similar, stacked-tubes that aren't poppets.
When Griffan said that year before last at Vegas I was working on it - that one was somewhat similar to what J4 is doing -but it too (like all Aliens) had a SMC valve that moved the bolt forward and back. We have stayed away from Spring backs or the use of stored air to drive the bolt back. Some say the spring back - like the Infinity Legend and the DP Fusion are just as good, and some now use the stored air to drive the bolt back - Which as I understand it is what J4 does. Alien has simply chosen not to go that route.
Anyway - you won't find much similar between the two. I need a couple of weeks to get things settled and I will have an explanation on exactly how it works.
I already had the Independence shooting in the low 60's on the LPR and this will be less but I don't want to promise anything until I have the final numbers.
Same with the efficiency. Looks to be as efficient, but until I have all the numbers I can't say for sure. Thing is that the original design was to be where players could swap out the "new smoother engine" for a more efficient "poppet engine" but it may be that the quieter engine is just as efficient so there wouldn't be a need to have both.
It's just that when you do a prototype gun and you then do the production gun, things change. We are not doing a second prototype, this a production gun and we will decide if there is a reason to have one engine or two.
Originally Posted by asfaraslogic
Pics or Shens .
I get that that is a dare to get me to post a pic - because you have been around Alien long enough to know we don't release before we have it done - no "Shens" here. Anyway, give me a few days and we get it to you.