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Old 04-03-2013, 10:14 PM #778
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It takes the same triggers as g6rs and victories..
I'm glad they did that!
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:19 PM #779
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It's hard for me to trust any efficiency test from Bob. Maybe this gun will get 10 pods off a 45/4500, maybe it won't. I know that his G6R video claimed 20.5 pods and I've never seen ANYONE be able to duplicate those numbers. Certainly not in person or even on Youtube. I'm not buying into any of Bob's claims on efficiency until I see it for myself or see someone duplicate it on video. And what's up with the +/- 15 fps? Not very consistent. That means the velocity could be anywhere from 270 to 300 if you're shooting for 285.

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In the video he says ~15 pods off a 70.
You must have misheard. In the video he clearly states 17 pods off of a 70/4500. Again, I'll believe it when I can see it with my own eyes.
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:20 PM #781
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so why does an lpr make a gun a smooth shot on this design? I am curious to know the science behind it
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:31 PM #783
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I agree. The LV1 will be an excellent marker. So will the insight, cyborg, and a few others coming out this year.

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And a terrible time to be broke *** and saving for a house...

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It's hard for me to trust any efficiency test from Bob. Maybe this gun will get 10 pods off a 45/4500, maybe it won't. I know that his G6R video claimed 20.5 pods and I've never seen ANYONE be able to duplicate those numbers. Certainly not in person or even on Youtube. I'm not buying into any of Bob's claims on efficiency until I see it for myself or see someone duplicate it on video. And what's up with the +/- 15 fps? Not very consistent. That means the velocity could be anywhere from 270 to 300 if you're shooting for 285.



You must have misheard. In the video he clearly states 17 pods off of a 70/4500. Again, I'll believe it when I can see it with my own eyes.
Definitely this.

I did the math and according to bobs test, a 68/4500 should be able to shoot 2000 balls. If this is infact true that would make his new spool 1-2 pods more effecient than a g6r which pull 10-13 pods in YouTube tests. Surely this new super spool engine has amazing valve resolution. Can we get some diagrams or explanations of this spool that justifies its performance?

I'm gonna remain skeptical until some independent parties test this marker.
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:53 AM #787
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Definitely this.

I did the math and according to bobs test, a 68/4500 should be able to shoot 2000 balls. If this is infact true that would make his new spool 1-2 pods more effecient than a g6r which pull 10-13 pods in YouTube tests. Surely this new super spool engine has amazing valve resolution. Can we get some diagrams or explanations of this spool that justifies its performance?

I'm gonna remain skeptical until some independent parties test this marker.
On youtube tests your right they get around 12-13 but they dont have there guns tuned correctly/not full 4500 fill. Got about 17ish off my friends tuned g6r a couple weekends back and other people in the thread have reported 19
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It takes the same triggers as g6rs and victories..
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It's hard for me to trust any efficiency test from Bob. Maybe this gun will get 10 pods off a 45/4500, maybe it won't. I know that his G6R video claimed 20.5 pods and I've never seen ANYONE be able to duplicate those numbers. Certainly not in person or even on Youtube. I'm not buying into any of Bob's claims on efficiency until I see it for myself or see someone duplicate it on video. And what's up with the +/- 15 fps? Not very consistent. That means the velocity could be anywhere from 270 to 300 if you're shooting for 285.

You must have misheard. In the video he clearly states 17 pods off of a 70/4500. Again, I'll believe it when I can see it with my own eyes.
It was a 90ci/4500 in the g6r video.
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I agree. The LV1 will be an excellent marker. So will the insight, cyborg, and a few others coming out this year.

This is a good time to be a paintballer
See bob just made me have to spend more money in the next few months. I was just gonna have to buy the lv1 and the torque when it comes out but now I'm gonna have to get my hands on one of these too.
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It was a 90ci/4500 in the g6r video.
No it wasn't. He was using a 70/4500 with a slp reg before the slp reg was released.
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No it wasn't. He was using a 70/4500 with a slp reg before the slp reg was released.
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I've witnessed 9 plus hopper off a hot filled 50/4500 at a tournament with my sons first g6r. Not sure how that translate but it was "real world" experience.

He come off the field empty of paint and air.
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On youtube tests your right they get around 12-13 but they dont have there guns tuned correctly/not full 4500 fill. Got about 17ish off my friends tuned g6r a couple weekends back and other people in the thread have reported 19
If a poppit shoots 300fps consistently over a chrono, there is no such thing as 'tuned incorrectly '. All the ram has to do is open the valve. Not that hard. And even if every single one of the YouTube tests where only filled to 4k instead of a full 4500, that wouldn't account for the difference of 8 or so pods between bob and every 3rd party tester.

If anyone tells you they shoot more than 2000 balls (14 pods) out of any marker; just call BD and ask for proof. In science the only results that are accepted are the replicable ones.
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My g6 is super efficient. Ill test it this weekend. I can usually get pretty close to 4500 psi at our field.
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Holy ****!

If bob came out with a budget balling gun, one that was like $400 or so(maybe he just uses his old models for the mid-ends?) He would have absolutely EVERY corner covered as far as guns...

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honestly, what more could a player ask for now? Bob has you set in every category
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If a poppit shoots 300fps consistently over a chrono, there is no such thing as 'tuned incorrectly '. All the ram has to do is open the valve. Not that hard. And even if every single one of the YouTube tests where only filled to 4k instead of a full 4500, that wouldn't account for the difference of 8 or so pods between bob and every 3rd party tester.

If anyone tells you they shoot more than 2000 balls (14 pods) out of any marker; just call BD and ask for proof. In science the only results that are accepted are the replicable ones.
Not true (maybe not tuned optimally is a better phrase). The pressures and the dwell have an influence on the timing of the valve. This is one of the reasons why one utilizes a sweet spotting method to get the most out of your gun. Generally speaking, the dwell has the bigger influence on the efficiency. You will not get as good of performance out of your gun if it is not set up properly.

Regardless of how you feel about Bob's numbers, I think you will be hard pressed to actually sit another gun next to the G6R with an SLP tank and beat its efficiency numbers even with the out of the box settings.
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