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Old 01-17-2004, 11:39 PM #1
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gun wont shoot?

ok well any help is appreciated. anyways i was going to dry fire my gun so i screw in my tank turn on my gun...and then it wont shoot? i have a full fill in my tank new battery and the gun is on but it wont fire for some reason anyone know why?
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Old 01-17-2004, 11:49 PM #2
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In short if noid clicks you need to turn up your lpr (aoc). If that doesn't solve things we can proceed from there.
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Old 01-17-2004, 11:54 PM #3
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ok well i turned up my inline reg and it started firing...but now i hear a leak and it sounds like its coming from the top...maybe aoc? and it doesnt sound like a little leak either :\
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Old 01-18-2004, 10:54 AM #5
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Two possible leaks. Solenoid vents or Cup seal. I assume Kansas has things well in hand, but I figured I'd chip in.

If it's coming from the left side of the marker, through those two slotted vents where the frame meets the body(or just blowing generally from the left side of the grip), then your noid is venting.

This means that you need to turn down your AOC/LPR so there isn't as much pressure to the noid.

If you have an AOC, I feel genuine pity for you, those things are a B*TCH! I went and bought an LPR adapter and a Rock just so I wouldn't have to deal with it

If it is NOT a noid leak, there is the possibility that you have a cup seal that is not doing it's job very well, which would be the classic leak down the barrel. Either oil or replace it.
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If it is coming from the top that usually means a valve leak. Just take the barrel off and stick your finger over the exhaust hole to see if air is coming from there. Either it is the valve cup or valve oring.
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ok well i took apart my gun the cupseal looks fine but i cant get my valve out and i think andy said he put loctite on it
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If I did, I only put Blue loctite on it so it shouldn't be that hard to break loose. I've just used a cordless drill on the low setting to break the valve lock screw loose in the past.

One thing I've noticed while working on Tribals for a while is that the bore tolerances were absolutely HORRIBLE. So sometimes it is necessary to shim out the o-ring by placing a narrow strip or two of teflon tape in the o-ring groove of the valve. That or it just needs some good lubing.
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well i need a 2 prong tool to get the ram out and nothin i tried worked and now my moms pissed at me for ruining her fork but what ever warped my guns coming your way in a couple weeks...also for a magnetic trigger mod but for now im gonna try and play even though i have a leak thanks to everyone that helped
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just stick two allen wrenches in the holes in that back of the ram and use a pare of pliers to twist it. then stick a allen down the pin slot and push the hammer/ram assembly out.



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Old 01-18-2004, 04:22 PM #11
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yea i tried that the thing was in hella tight my neighbor had some snap pliers thing so i borrowed them orings looked fine but i dont have any gauges :\ so i decided i'll ship my gun out to andy (in a couple weeks when my membership runs out to my field since i want the magnetic trigger anyways i shot it in my back yard it shoots ok just the leak so im gonna try and play with it on saturday since its $5 for all day air
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Exclamation A couple suggestions

Instead of a fork try a set of needlenose pliers or snap ring pliers. If you still can remove the ram & are going to use the marker eventhough it leaks get some oil on that valve. Remove the inline reg and put a few drops into the hole of the vert asa screw, reassemble, air up and dry fire several times to get the oil in there. Not too much tho.....
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thx for the suggestion on the oil i'll put a couple drops in befor ei play on saturday and i already lubed everything up so thats all good
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Another thing you should check for is the tightness of the valve lock screw. I had a leak coming out of my barrel and couldnt figure out the reason since the cup seal was perfect. Turned out that the screw holding in the valve was a little too tight and compressing the valve. I turned it out a quarter of a turn and the problem was solved.
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