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Old 03-14-2013, 03:23 PM #1
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Invert Mini doesn't respond to trigger pull. PLEASE HELP!!

I have a Invert Mini V3. Everything is stock except I have a Lurker Bolt put in, I've checked for all of the magnets and they are all there. I know my eyes don't work so I have purchased the Virtue Laser Eyes and they are going to be here tomorrow. I have played a few games with the eyes off back when I could turn them off. Currently I can start it up but the "broken" eyes are always turned "on". I don't think it is registering the trigger pulls because the noid doesn't click either. I'm not sure if my eye board is completely dead or my noid is dead? Or maybe both?

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Old 03-14-2013, 04:06 PM #2
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Does it work when you put your finger in the chamber?
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:47 AM #3
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Get the new eyes installed and diagnose it from there...process of elimination.
however, with eyes ON or OFF, the LED should change color with every trigger pull, an indication the board is registering a trigger pull. If it doesn't, you may have board issues. But if you're sure the magnet is present and installed correctly, adjust the magnet screw all the way in, then back it out, checking for a registered pull trigger every half turn or so. If your eyes are OFF during this process, you'll hear the noid click when you're within adjustment. Fine tune it from there.
Again, install the new eyes first, so you know you've eliminated that as an issue.

Furthermore, turn the gun on, and stick your finger into the breach... the led ON THE BOARD should change color to register a ball present. DO NOT HAVE THE GUN AIRED UP WHEN YOU DO THIS PLEASE... you accidentally pull the trigger with your finger in there, you're gonna have some choice words to yell, if she decides to fire. If with the new eyes installed, you cant get an LED change, look to the main board for issues.
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Old 03-15-2013, 02:02 PM #4
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No it doesn't work with my finger in the chamber... I got the new eyes today. I'm not sure if they are bad or not. One eye lights up and the other doesn't. But it senses that there is a ball in the chamber when I put my finger in it so I do believe that the eyes are functioning properly. However with/without my finger in the breach there is no click from the noid. I tried turning the eyes off but I can't because something is not responding to the trigger. I know a guy who also has a mini. I'll have him see if my noid works in his gun. I adjusted the magnets in the trigger and that did nothing. The magnet in the trigger should be attrcated to the magnet in the upper housing of the gun correct?
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Old 03-15-2013, 02:06 PM #5
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ooo i had this problem with my AXE...or something similar. When you put the frame back together something didnt line up correctly.

the screws were "too tight" and once i loosed them up very slightly the trigger started responding.
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Old 03-15-2013, 02:08 PM #6
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I just tried that.. It didn't work unfortunately.. Thanks though!
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Old 03-15-2013, 02:10 PM #7
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Should I just send it in to Empire? I have no clue if it's under warranty right now. I got it used off of Craig's List. :/
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Old 03-15-2013, 02:17 PM #8
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Email KEE and explain to them EVERYTHING you have tried and everything you are seeing. they will either send you parts, or have you ship it in
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:26 PM #9
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I'm having the same problem as well cant seem to figure it out. My eyes are working fine the trigger just wont click.
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:31 PM #10
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All right. I shall do that. Who is KEE though?
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:08 PM #11
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last weekend somebody at my field had this problem. i took it apart and wiped down the sensor for the trigger. It worked perfectly fine after that.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:15 PM #12
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Yeah I tried that also but that didn't work.. I just emailed Empire Tech Support. Thank you very much for the help guys and gals!
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:18 PM #13
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No problem. Hopefully its an easy fix
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:21 PM #14
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You must be missing a tiny magnet that is glued to the main body of the marker underneat the eyes sensor board, happened to my buddy a few weeks ago.

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Old 03-15-2013, 09:42 PM #15
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So I just went ahead and took my marker apart just to snap a picture of the magnet

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Old 03-15-2013, 09:58 PM #16
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I do have it in the upper housing of the gun. Just not glued and its in the middle of all of the circles. Thank you though!
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:59 PM #17
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I warn all of you with Mini's... If you get the Virtue Laser Eyes. Be very careful. It doesn't really fit well..
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:09 PM #18
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How's it holding there then?
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:36 AM #19
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If you push it in lightly then screw the base plate on then that pushes it all the way in.
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:37 AM #20
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It is a bit frustrating and also my prongs for the eyes came kind of bent. :/
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Old 03-16-2013, 08:55 AM #21
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First off...The Virtue eyes are working. And Yes, only one lights up... its a break beam setup.

Second of all...You just found your problem!!!!

That magnet doesnt belong there!!! It belongs glued to the forward most adjustment screw on the trigger itself! That was a big problem with Minis....

Thats why its not registering a trigger pull!

Take that magnet, and glue it back to the top of that forward screw.. using Super Glue.
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