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Old 03-08-2013, 04:54 PM #1
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Shipping from USA to Canada

Hello fellow Nation,

I've recently saw a forum of someone asking about shipments to Canada from the states so I gave them my opinion based on my experience:

Here is one thing about shipping to Canada, I live here so don't try to correct me as I have pretty good experience with shipments from the US.

1)Be prepared to pay for international tax from packages not marked as "gifts" or "letters". This can range from like 10-60 bucks depending on the size. But if you plan on buying gear the dimensions of lets say a gearbag, be prepared for the high 50's or low 60's depending on where you live on just tax itself once it arrives at your door step.

2) Packages improperly marked as gift's and not as business can sometimes come across the unfortunate event of random search's and the package will be confiscated and the shipper will be contacted. However it's farely hard to prove if you actually payed for this product. You don't need to worry about this with retail stores online as they always ship legit.

3)International letters through USPS will be delivered directly to your mailbox, and you dont need to pay international tax on these. USPS ships it to the border, it goes through customs, and Canada Post takes it over. Expect it to take about 7-10 days. Maximum being 30.

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A little information from capt_neumo from ebay giving his information on shipments:
USPS is (fairly) FAST & EASY!

DO IT ALL ON-LINE at USPS.com!: Calculate and buy postage, print labels, order supplies, track packages and get on-line discounts: www.usps.com

Also check out eBay's USPS SHIPPING ZONE: http://pages.ebay.com/usps/home.html

USPS has an easy international rate calculator.
1. Select the country.
2. Select the mail type/shape (i.e. 'package').
3. Enter weight (lbs & ozs).
4. Click on 'continue.' The calculator will provide you a list of ALL your USPS mailing/shipping options and costs for your box -- plus on-line customs forms/info and shipping labels. (NOTE: the calculator page provides access to a convenient downloadable (pdf) international rates chart, as well.)

USPS INT'L RATE CALCULATOR: http://ircalc.usps.gov

NOTE: USPS does NOT use foreign postal (zip) codes/addresses to calculate shipping -- just weight. That's because mail that crosses the border becomes the responsibility of CanadaPost. In other words, the same package will cost the same amount no matter where it's mailed to in Canada!

USPS Preparing International Shipments info/rules: https://www.usps.com/ship/prepare-in...-shipments.htm

Canada-specific rules: http://pe.usps.com/text/imm/ce_003.htm



USPS SERVICES:

1. FIRST CLASS MAIL INTERNATIONAL (FCMI): (Formerly Airmail Letter-post & Economy Letter-post.) A great, economical service for envelopes and small boxed items weighing 4 lbs or less and up to 36" around (length + width + depth). FCMI canNOT be insured, but it can be REGISTERED. (Note: USPS requires that some items such as jewelry, stocks/bonds, et al., be sent First Class Mail Int'l, Registered).

2. PRIORITY MAIL INTERNATIONAL (PMI): (Formerly Global Priority Mail, Airmail Parcel-post and Economy Parcel-post.) PMI provides tracking and optional insurance for envelopes and boxes small to large. It also offers Flat-Rate envelopes, as well as a 5% discount for purchasing postage on-line.

3. EXPRESS MAIL INTERNATIONAL (EMI): (Formerly Global Express Mail or EMS.) EMI includes tracking and insurance for envelopes and boxes small to large, and offers faster service (half the time of Priority Mail Int'l). EMI also offers Flat-Rate enveloped, as well as an 8% discount for purchasing postage on-line. Another express service, 4. GLOBAL EXPRESS GUARANTEED, offers guaranteed delivery (via FedEx) in 1-3 business days for envelopes and boxes.

COMPARE RATES! (Note: current prices may be different as mail rates increase - still cheaper than courier/freight services.)

1. First Class Mail Intl: (1 lb) $4.66 (2 lbs) $8.26 (3 lbs) $11.86 (4 lbs) $15.46 - most economical (only goes to 4 lbs)

2. Priority Mail Intl*: (1 lb) $16.00 (2 lbs) $17.30 (3 lbs) $18.16 (4 lbs) $19.90 - trackable & insurable

3. Express Mail Intl*: (1 lb) $23.25 (2 lbs) $25.00 (3 lbs) $26.75 (4 lbs) $28.50 - fastest

*Flat rate and on-line discounts available. Tracking included.


FORMS & FEES:

NOTE on Brokerage Fees (there are none): Because USPS & CanadaPost have long standing agreements to handle each other's mail, brokers' fees are NEVER charged. EXPENSIVE BROKERS FEES MUST be CHARGED BY MOST OTHER COURIER/SHIPPING SERVICES. BUT NOT USPS or CANADA POST! :-)

CUSTOMS FORMS:

There are only two standard USPS customs forms for Canada-bound packages: 1. First Class Mail (4x3 green sticker: PS Form 2976) and 2. Priority Mail (6.5x8 white form & sleeve: PS Form 2976-A & 2976-E - the clear holding sleeve). NOTE: USPS provides printable online customs forms and shipping labels. (eBay's USPS site provides a direct link to USPS labels: http://pages.ebay.com/usps/shippingitems/labels.html)

Filling Out Customs Forms: All customs forms require: 1. CONTENTS (item(s) description): the eBay item (for example, 'Used Coat'), and 2. VALUE: always the eBay Winning Bid. 3. The Priority Mail and online forms require the addition of both parties' names, addresses and buyer's ('importer's') phone number or e-mail.

NOTE on Customs Valuation: When declaring the value on customs forms, 'VALUE' IS the PRICE PAID (the EBAY WINNING BID). (Backed up by the eBay invoice and PayPal/MO/cancelled check receipt.)

Customs fees and USPS insurance claims are ALWAYS based on purchase receipts -- the actual price paid for an item -- NOT an estimated or figured value, such as what an item may (or may not) be worth. Unfortunately 'over valuing' items, even in an attempt to be helpful, can cause unnecessary extra expenses for Canadians in taxes and fees.

I've had people tell me that the post office told them to write in "anything" for value on the customs form. This is wrong and is NOT a USPS call. It's a Canada Customs law. Value is what a buyer paid for the eBay item being shipped over the border.

IMPORTANT info on PACKAGE ID: Always include full names and addresses (with street) and fill out the customs form, or packages may be delayed. Canada Customs (as does US Customs) has the authority to open boxes and they MAY, if an item is not properly identified, or improperly marked as 'gift.' Then they will tax the item at what they think it's worth (plus handling). Customs isn't always fooled by packages marked 'gift'! :-)

NOTE on Commercial Importers VS eBayers: License, certificate, invoice and tariff numbers, and tax/VAT/importer codes are for COMMERCIAL importers (senders) only and do NOT apply to most (individual/private) eBayers. Yippee!

FEES:

CUSTOMS FEES:


1. TAXES (the most common fee): Canada Customs ONLY assesses taxes (GST or HST) on goods valued at $20 CAD (about $18-22 USD) or more. Taxes are generally about 5-15% (depending on the provincial destination). An $8.50 'handling' fee is also added when an item is taxed. When taxes are charged, Customs sticks a taxes-owing form on the box and the box is held by the Post Office as a COD. Recipient pays the tax/handling when the package is retrieved.

NOTE: Customs cannot check every box, so frequently items valued at more than $20 CAD do get through with no charge -- it's a 'hit-or-miss' situation. Likewise, if taxes are over-charged due to a missing customs form or a seller over-value, recipients can send in to Canada Customs proof-of-payment (eBay invoice and PayPal/money order receipt or cancelled check), along with the customs tax form stuck to the box (make a copy first) to get a refund.

2. DUTY: Thanks to NAFTA there is NO DUTY assessed on goods made in the US or Canada (or Mexico); or on used goods, generally. Most eBay transactions do NOT involve duty. (Yippee!) But duty may be assessed on NEW or high-end used items made ('originating') outside of North America.

Other FEES:

There are none! When using USPS/Canada Post the buyer will NEVER get a 'surprise' brokerage fee. Brokers are used by other shipping companies (UPS, FedEx, etc.) to import and deliver items. Brokerage fees can cost as much as the entire item and shipping fees!! But USPS/CanadaPost have agreements with each other to handle each other's mail, so NO BROKERAGE FEES are EVER charged with USPS (or CanadaPost) services! Yippee!

CANADA CUSTOMS (CBSA) info site: http://cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/menu-eng.html



TIP:

BOX REUSE TIP: You can turn printed/used boxes inside out to use again (no need to cover with brown paper -- which USPS and CanadaPost do not like anyway because it rips/gets caught in machinery)!

I hope this 'manual' helps. As an American-Canadian living here, I know that Canadians LOVE having the choice of US eBay goods! And we'll help drive up your earnings (and make it worth your business while) if you ship here!! Please contact me with questions, comments or additions/corrections. Thanks & best of luck!

And again, it all depends on where you live and where the shipment is coming from. Correct me if I'm wrong but taxes on shipments do vary from province to province in Canada.

Just a quick note to all you new ballers on PBNation seeking to get your gear, etc. from the USA. Hope you all have a great experience in your future transactions and happy balling!

Please comment and bump this thread to make it popular and well known thanks
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This is an awesome write up!

Mind if I copy it and spread it across other forums?
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Yup.......you're responsible for paying taxes on anything that comes into the country. Regardless of how it's shipped you pay HST.

Now......if you ship by Courier like UPS or FEDEX, they usually tack on an additional processing fee for the customs paper work(customs brokerage fee) that they have to fill out. It can be as high as 20% of the value of your items. A lot of people confuse the taxes with the brokerage fee. They are not the same but certainly add up.

You can avoid brokerage fees by selecting USPS(post) for shipping when it's available. If not sometimes calling and asking will work. I usually just won't buy from anyone that doesn't offer USPS. The down side is it's usually a bit slower.
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Yup.......you're responsible for paying taxes on anything that comes into the country. Regardless of how it's shipped you pay HST.

Now......if you ship by Courier like UPS or FEDEX, they usually tack on an additional processing fee for the customs paper work(customs brokerage fee) that they have to fill out. It can be as high as 20% of the value of your items. A lot of people confuse the taxes with the brokerage fee. They are not the same but certainly add up.

You can avoid brokerage fees by selecting USPS(post) for shipping when it's available. If not sometimes calling and asking will work. I usually just won't buy from anyone that doesn't offer USPS. The down side is it's usually a bit slower.
Yea one of the very unfortunate perks of living in a great country with free health-care.... slow delivery
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Yea one of the very unfortunate perks of living in a great country with free health-care.... slow delivery
LOL. Slow health care too! Try to get a knee replaced before age 55. Ieeee....anyway....

I live on the border and have a business box for work so often I get stuff shipped there and just bring it over myself. Pay the taxes and be done with it. It's way quicker. No brokerage fees either way since I'm the broker lol.
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LOL. Slow health care too! Try to get a knee replaced before age 55. Ieeee....anyway....

I live on the border and have a business box for work so often I get stuff shipped there and just bring it over myself. Pay the taxes and be done with it. It's way quicker. No brokerage fees either way since I'm the broker lol.
Haha yea thats crazy. A couple of my family members who needed surgery had I hard time to get surgery also. Maybe 6 months to a year even more.

That awesome! I wish I could just pick my stuff up at the border Lol.
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