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Old 03-07-2013, 09:13 PM #1
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Empire Axe blowback. Check video inside! Help!

Is this too much blow back for an Axe? Also I believe the blowback is causing my Z2 bottom plate to come loose which then causes the freeway to come undone which then shreds the paint.

Either that or my bolt is clipping the ball stack but the paint is up in the hopper so I think blowback is the issue.

I'm getting a new bolt guide tomorrow which hopefully has new orings. What do you guys think?

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Old 03-07-2013, 09:17 PM #2
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:24 PM #3
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What u think SNAKE? You've helped me a lot in here and I was hoping you would come around.
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:58 PM #4
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That is actually not too bad but sometimes the Z2 can be tuff on any blowback. Are you running my my? Or another?
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:04 PM #5
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That is actually not too bad but sometimes the Z2 can be tuff on any blowback. Are you running my my? Or another?
Well...I was trying to fix my barrel leak so I took all the bolt guide orings off and washed them in the sink. Well of course I dropped them and they washed down the drain

SO I switched back to the original orings after everything had been cleaned and the leak stopped.

After shooting it today with everything pretty much stock it still broke paint when I started ramping. AND the SLOW leak down the barrel started again

I can't catch a break with this thing. So fed up. I hope the bolt guide I get tomorrow has orings on it.

Just want it to work like it should. I've put a bunch of money into it and I don't understand how this keeps happening. HAHA I'm just terrible luck.

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The BIP time was on 2ms. I still had this problem with the stock board though. Wondering if upping the BIP time to 3 or 4 would help. Anyone think the ball stack is getting clipped?

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Old 03-07-2013, 10:10 PM #6
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If you continue to have issues. let me know if you would like me to go thru the gun for you, no charge.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:18 PM #7
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If you continue to have issues. let me know if you would like me to go thru the gun for you, no charge.
I appreciate it boss. You've been a huge help for me along my Axe journey. Hopefully this bolt guide will be relief at the end of the tunnel. Btw did u ramp when u shot my gun? If you remember. I'm sure u have plenty of guns everyday.

Ya know I use to have a bolt that required a metal spacer to be placed on the bolt guide. Any chance that me forcefully trying to take it off multiple times hurts my bolt guide? I know I have scratched it with a flat head.

I'm really beginning to think it isn't my Z2.

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BOSS is the best in the business. He knows his stuff and is extremely helpful. If y'all need anything especially Axe related get a hold of him. He will go through everything with you and will get you running right. He has a great online store as well. I have spent a lot of money (actually all my upgrades have come from him) in there and his customer service and personal attention is the absolute best hands down.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:48 PM #8
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Are you under bore too much? Does a force feed hopper hold a ball in the chamber?
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:51 PM #9
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Are you under bore too much? Does a force feed hopper hold a ball in the chamber?
I am bore matching. Yeah there is a stack of balls. Not sure what ur asking on the second question.
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A hopper with a force feed will keep balls stacked and hold pressure on the chamber.
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A hopper with a force feed will keep balls stacked and hold pressure on the chamber.
Yeah I'm using a force feed hopper. An empire z2...

I hope someone finds something that solves this problem or the new part solves it tmrw. I'm at wits end with this thing. I haven't been able to enjoy playing ball in months.

I just wanna turn my gun on, load up, and it shoot 12.5 bps. I guess that is too much for me to ask for.

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Old 03-08-2013, 08:22 AM #12
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Ya know I use to have a bolt that required a metal spacer to be placed on the bolt guide. Any chance that me forcefully trying to take it off multiple times hurts my bolt guide? I know I have scratched it with a flat head.
It is possible. You could have gotten a small metal shaving in the bolt guide and put a tiny scratch in the sealing surface.

Before we get too far ahead of our selves let's see how the new bolt guide works. Most blow back issues are related to small bolt guide o-ring and back 2 bolt o-rings.
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:30 AM #13
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It is possible. You could have gotten a small metal shaving in the bolt guide and put a tiny scratch in the sealing surface.

Before we get too far ahead of our selves let's see how the new bolt guide works. Most blow back issues are related to small bolt guide o-ring and back 2 bolt o-rings.
Thanks Boss. Hopefully it will all come together with the new bolt guide.
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:39 AM #14
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I thought this massive blowback happens when the bolt tip or the large bolt orings were bad? Or possibly a bad poppit oring.

Do you not have any orings you can switch out?
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:51 AM #15
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I thought this massive blowback happens when the bolt tip or the large bolt orings were bad? Or possibly a bad poppit oring.

Do you not have any orings you can switch out?
I switched back to my original small bolt guide orings. Don't have any big bolt guide ones. I'm hoping the bolt guide comes with new orings and what would be even more awesome is a new poppet.

I had two sets of poppets...one I think the plastic face is bent cause it doesnt sit flat on a table and the other one looks normal but still have a leak.
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I'm willing to guessing you need new orings or a bolt tip for the bolt, not the bolt guide. I'd look into getting some of those because the blowback has to get by those orings before it can come up the feedneck.
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I'm willing to guessing you need new orings or a bolt tip for the bolt, not the bolt guide. I'd look into getting some of those because the blowback has to get by those orings before it can come up the feedneck.
I'll see if the hardware store has some in that size. Think those orings cause the leak down the barrel too?

YA KNOW the video shows me one balling to show blowback. And like BOSS said it doesn't seem too bad but wouldn't it be more blow back once I start ramping? That would explain the hopper being blown out of line and the balls being blown up in the ball stack.

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Those orings will cause blowback. Leak down the barrel could be the poppit face or solenoid in my experience.
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Those orings will cause blowback. Leak down the barrel could be the poppit face or solenoid in my experience.
Hardware store oring will cause blow back?

EDIT: Nevermind. Hopefully it's not the poppet. I'm really hoping the new bolt guide comes with one.
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I meant that if the orings/bolt tip on the bolt now are bad they can cause blowback. I doubt the hardware store will have them because almost all the orings in the Axe a funky metric size. A lot hardware stores don't even stock NBR orings, but standard rubber orings which can cause all sorts of problems.

In any case you can get the parts you need from Kee so don't worry unless you need to use it this weekend.
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Hopefully it's not the poppet. I'm really hoping the new bolt guide comes with one.
It's usually not the poppet that's even bad, just the threaded plastic face. It's like ~<$1 to buy or Kee will mail you one. I really suggest the boss orings for the bolt guide. IMO, well worth it.
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