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Old 03-07-2013, 12:31 AM #1
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Opinions on Barrels [Primarily for Axe]? Review on Lurker Eigen?

Trying to decide what to get for my incoming Axe. Cost actually does play a big factor in that, I would not mind using any of them. So it just depends which one will pop up on BST/eBay for sale at the lowest price.

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- Deadlywind w. Freak Inserts
- Lurker Eigenbarrel
- Disruptive Kit

How is the Lurker Eigenbarrel? I'm really curious as to how they are. I want to find one used (seen them go for $15-25) and would instantly buy them at that price. What bore is recommended? Normal paint is 0.684. So would I get the 0.675 one to underbore?

I think I decided to go underbore. After a lot of reading, either underbore or overbore is best for me. This is especially after reading positive reviews about underboring Axe's w. the Lurker.

How much do Deadlywind barrels and Freak inserts go for now? Saw them at ranging prices and not sure what is a good deal. Has anyone ever tried Deadlywind/Freak vs Lurker? Maybe in an Axe specifically?

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Old 03-07-2013, 06:54 AM #2
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Those are all great options. The disruptive kit and deadlywind kit will of course offer you more bore size options which will allow you to use a wider variety of paint and experiment with different bore sizes.

The Disruptive barrel has a longer control bore than the deadlywind and will thus be generally more efficient. The Deadlwyind is of course the lightest of the barrels you mentioned due to carbon fiber and the use of freak backs gives you the option of using aluminum or stainless steel backs (if you can find them).

For the Eigenbarrel,If you want to underbore, the .675 barrel should suit you well assuming paint where you are is around .684 (which is pretty common). Some areas however still have larger paint in which case the .685 would be more appropriate. You could of course purchase both and have yourself pretty well covered for any paint.

As far as reviews of the Eigenbarrel goes, it was the most efficient barrel tested in the punkworks barrel testing so I would say it is good to go. It has a long control bore, pretty good porting and uses 7075 aluminum.

You won't go wrong with any of the barrels you listed it just comes down to what you are looking for.

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Old 03-07-2013, 07:57 AM #3
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I've been using the eigenbarrel for a while now and have both the .678 and .684. You really can't just have the .678 as they start to have problems under boring more than .006 , lots of barrel breaks. This was confirmed by the manf support. I had some quality issues too when i first ordered, but lurker's support was awesome and took care of the problems. They shoot really well though.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:40 AM #4
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So if I wanted to spend as little as possible and get the most out of it what would I get?

Eisen .684 or .678? Or a used DW w. freak kit?

Was never really a big fan of CF or weight so it's not a huge deal me. So it would seem that a Disruptive would be better for me. Ill see if I can find any of these used.
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:25 AM #5
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I've been using the DeathTouch for a few months now, and it's a very nice kit. My only complaint with it is that it's REALLY difficult to push a swab through.

I haven't even held an Eigen, so I won't speak to it, but the other 2 are fairly quiet, very light, and accurate. Both come in a case, and have several bore options. DeathTouch has length options though.

If you aren't going to shoot 16" length, I'd go with the DW.
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Furious lotus. I used one in my axe when I had it. It gained me about 13 fps depending on which bore. It also was quite and super efficient.
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I've been using the DeathTouch for a few months now, and it's a very nice kit. My only complaint with it is that it's REALLY difficult to push a swab through.

I haven't even held an Eigen, so I won't speak to it, but the other 2 are fairly quiet, very light, and accurate. Both come in a case, and have several bore options. DeathTouch has length options though.

If you aren't going to shoot 16" length, I'd go with the DW.
Thanks for the reply. Guess ill pass on the Disruptive.
Just depends whether a DW/Freak or Eigen will be in BST first.

How much do Dw barrels usually go for now?

Can anyone speak for the Eigen? Or .684 or .678? A lot of people said to just go .678 as it's not much of a difference. But the .684 to be safe?

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I've considered the Furious but decided to pass on it. A lot of people said it would be the same as the stock barrel. Would prob go Eisen over Furious.
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Furious will definitely be a huge improvement over stock and I'd be willing to bet it's a top performer in any of the large name brand barrels. I'd even consider lending one to you just to prove that point
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I've picked up like new deadlywind fiburs for $50-60. I have the .678 eigen and my preference is the eigen whenever possible.
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Old 03-07-2013, 02:46 PM #10
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I've picked up like new deadlywind fiburs for $50-60. I have the .678 eigen and my preference is the eigen whenever possible.
Is there a reason you prefer the Eigen over DW? What are the characteristics/performances of both?

Is this on the Axe?

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Not on the Axe specifically, however the performance will be similar. The eigen has a longer control bore which translates into being a bit more efficient and subjectively I'd say it's a bit quieter. If you experience breaks with the dw it is possible for some of the paint to get in between the insert and the fibur barrel. If you let it dry then it can be harder to get the insert out. That's the only real downside I've experienced besides the shorter control bore of the freak inserts.

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Hm, I can see that happening. Looks like a Furious or Eigen may be the best bet for me. Hard to find Eigen's for sale used though, anyone spot one?
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Hm, I can see that happening. Looks like a Furious or Eigen may be the best bet for me. Hard to find Eigen's for sale used though, anyone spot one?
They are pretty cheap new. You can purchase both bore sizes for the price of just the deadlywind with no inserts.
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.684 vs .678? Still reading around now. Looks like it's leaning towards .684
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.684 vs .678? Still reading around now. Looks like it's leaning towards .684

If you can only afford one, get the .684. The .678 will be fine if you know the paint you are going to be shooting is smaller than .684 but if you are unsure, go with the .684 bore. Ideally, it isn't a bad idea to purchase both.
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I have a .684 Lurker and love it. I also have a Shift kit and probably use the Lurker more. It has a nice sound and I like that it is a single piece.
Get the .684 first as it will give you the most versatility. Try it out and get the .678 later after you decide you like it. If you end up not liking it, your not out much money.
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I've been using the DeathTouch for a few months now, and it's a very nice kit. My only complaint with it is that it's REALLY difficult to push a swab through.
What is the reason? I have the Disruptive and never noticed that.
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The barrels you should be looking at are the Furious and Disruptive.
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What is the reason? I have the Disruptive and never noticed that.
I honestly have no idea. I can push the same swab easily through a bore matching that of the death touch with much less effort.

I currently own CFboomsticks, deadlywind, deathtouch, furious lotus, and lucky15. All of which shoot amazing on the Axe.
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So I just picked up a Freak kit.
Should I also get the two size Lurker barrels?

Which would get more use? Pros/cons of Freak vs Lurker?
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:45 PM #21
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Shot my Axe with Furious Lotus barrel all day on Saturday and Sunday... The setup was so ridiculous, it convinced my teammate to buy an Axe this morning.

The gun was so quiet that he thought I was only shooting around 100fps
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