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View Poll Results: Black people - why do they fail?
Simply less intelligent 6 15.00%
Lack of effort 17 42.50%
Too poor 6 15.00%
Too busy joining gangs 9 22.50%
Drugs 9 22.50%
Bad teachers in black schools 6 15.00%
Bad parents 13 32.50%
Lack of a father figure in many black families 13 32.50%
White and Asian people keep black people down 4 10.00%
Other 5 12.50%
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:47 PM #1
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Smile Are black people less intelligent than whites and asians?

http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/j/jencks-gap.html

" The black-white test score gap does not appear to be an inevitable fact of nature. It is true that the gap shrinks only a little when black and white children attend the same schools. It is also true that the gap shrinks only a little when black and white families have the same amount of schooling, the same income, and the same wealth"

So it's not a money issue.

"Even today, black third-graders in predominantly white schools read better than initially similar blacks who have attended predominantly black schools."

White schools do something differently? Lack of funding of schools isn't the problem either; we have enough money.

" While many people still think the traditional liberal remedies would help, few now believe they would suffice"

No trendy solutions. Only application and studying, like us Asians excel at

Not to brag, but us Asians are at the top. However, white people are very close, and arguably more creative than we are. But we are both well ahead of black people. What are the real reasons that black people are failing in school systems in this country?
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April 2013 and misinterprets the article.

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http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/j/jencks-gap.html

" The black-white test score gap does not appear to be an inevitable fact of nature. It is true that the gap shrinks only a little when black and white children attend the same schools. It is also true that the gap shrinks only a little when black and white families have the same amount of schooling, the same income, and the same wealth"

So it's not a money issue.

"Even today, black third-graders in predominantly white schools read better than initially similar blacks who have attended predominantly black schools."

White schools do something differently? Lack of funding of schools isn't the problem either; we have enough money.

" While many people still think the traditional liberal remedies would help, few now believe they would suffice"

No trendy solutions. Only application and studying, like us Asians excel at

Not to brag, but us Asians are at the top. However, white people are very close, and arguably more creative than we are. But we are both well ahead of black people. What are the real reasons that black people are failing in school systems in this country?
Reported for racism bucko.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:34 PM #5
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Reported for racism bucko.
What racism? There isn't any racism here. Maybe the guy above should of quoted YOU with the troll image he made.

If there are books written on this subject, then it is worth being discussed. Sorry if you feel offended because you are black.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:36 PM #6
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What racism? There isn't any racism here. Maybe the guy above should of quoted YOU with the troll image he made.

If there are books written on this subject, then it is worth being discussed. Sorry if you feel offended because you are black.
In the very slim chance you're not a troll.

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Old 04-28-2013, 07:41 PM #7
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What racism? There isn't any racism here. Maybe the guy above should of quoted YOU with the troll image he made.

If there are books written on this subject, then it is worth being discussed. Sorry if you feel offended because you are black.
I'm white.

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Old 04-28-2013, 07:45 PM #8
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In the very slim chance you're not a troll.
You said so yourself there boss. No EVIDENCE has been found - good lord. There is a ton of evidence that they clearly score far lower than Asians, Whites, and Persians.

There is CLEAR evidence that black people do worse in schools. Why is that? You seem like you want to discuss the topic, but aren't sure how. You must of voted for them being too poor. Do you think it is their lack of money or lack of money in black schools?
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:49 PM #9
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I'm white.

#newfag
http://thinkprogress.org/education/2...nce/?mobile=nc

I don't think you are white. That is what your school system looks like. That isn't MY fault. You can't even discuss a simple subject because you are mad about the facts. You and Mr Jonez are just afraid of stating something that is not "politically correct" I would bet to imagine.
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http://thinkprogress.org/education/2...nce/?mobile=nc

I don't think you are white. That is what your school system looks like. That isn't MY fault. You can't even discuss a simple subject because you are mad about the facts. You and Mr Jonez are just afraid of stating something that is not "politically correct" I would bet to imagine.
I'm pretty sure I'm white and I have posted my picture and facebook link on this site many times.

It's called rustling your jimmies.
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It's sad we can't discuss these kind of things without you guys being retards.
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It's sad we can't discuss these kind of things without you guys being retards.
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You said so yourself there boss. No EVIDENCE has been found - good lord. There is a ton of evidence that they clearly score far lower than Asians, Whites, and Persians.

There is CLEAR evidence that black people do worse in schools. Why is that? You seem like you want to discuss the topic, but aren't sure how. You must of voted for them being too poor. Do you think it is their lack of money or lack of money in black schools?
You're lucky this place isn't patrolled by mods.
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It's sad we can't discuss these kind of things without you guys being retards.
Eh? You mean the old report and obviously inflammatory remarks?

I'm all for discussing this topic but leave the bigoted filler.
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Discussing the reasons why a group of people are struggling in our society can be achieved without racist remarks. Or do you consider talking about anything negative about a minority group racist? Which is what that term is turning into IMO.

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Eh? You mean the old report and obviously inflammatory remarks?

I'm all for discussing this topic but leave the bigoted filler.
I meant to include OP, sorry if my post didn't sound like it.

I would like to discuss the topic also but it seems taboo in todays time due to over zealous political correctness.
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Discussing the reasons why a group of people are struggling in our society can be achieved without racist remarks. Or do you consider talking about anything negative about a minority group racist? Which is what that term is turning into IMO.
Well, I like to be referred to as caucasian, so I'm sure "black people" would like to be referred to as African Americans.

Plus, it's quite a coincidence that all of the smiley faces are after the comments that refer to races.

AND the very first person to post asked nicely if the thread can get closed. Obviously they were offended by something. I have nothing against the topic, I didn't actually report him.
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Well, I like to be referred to as caucasian, so I'm sure "black people" would like to be referred to as African Americans.
Even though they aren't from africa? If your ancestors are from britain how would you like to be called british american instead of caucasian or white?
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Even though they aren't from africa? If your ancestors are from britain how would you like to be called british american instead of caucasian or white?
Every single day of my life I see people in my city get mad when someone calls them "black people." Not everyone wants to be called "black people" or "white people."
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Every single day of my life I see people in my city get mad when someone calls them "black people." Not everyone wants to be called "black people" or "white people."
I've never seen someone get mad at that in my entire life. But you live in chicago so clearly that's not representative of any normal area.
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I've never seen someone get mad at that in my entire life.
I didn't ask if you did, I'm speaking from personal experience. You're ****ing crazy if you think people don't get mad at that, lol.

So you attempt to insult Chicago saying it's not "any normal area?" That's intelligent.
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Well, I like to be referred to as caucasian, so I'm sure "black people" would like to be referred to as African Americans.
Do you consider a white immigrant from south africa as african american?

What about a black immigrant from Jamaica?

Why is black a bad term? When caucasian is just a fancy term for light skinned people?

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AND the very first person to post asked nicely if the thread can get closed. Obviously they were offended by something. I have nothing against the topic, I didn't actually report him.
Too be honest if shakey is opposed to the topic then it's prolly not a bad thing. He doesn't like to talk about anything but RONPAUL2016 or Obama is the devil, who he voted for in 08.
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