[Tuff]

And how does Barack Obama compare to this list?

I bring this up, not because I would place Obama beneath all of them, but because it has been a semi popular comparison on various social media outlets, *** seen below


Like it or not, these images (by both parties) heavily influence people

and I wonder if anyone would place him below any of these people. While they could be viewed as dictators (and are) by many in the West, there are some that see (some of) these men for the good that they accomplished. While Obama has not committed any public executions, some feel his actions seek to perhaps disarm the American people for a future invasion. His using children as a prop was something Hitler and Stalin both did.

One - which one do you feel was the worst on the list? This can be any criteria you have, as everyone's would vary. Two, how would you rank them, in the event you were asked in real life.

Edited for clarification on the order I'd place them in

Joseph Stalin
Mao Zedong (Tse-Tung)
Adolf Hitler
Pol Pot
Muammar Gaddafi
Barack Obama
Saddam Hussein
FDR
Robert Mugabe

[F1VENOM]

[Iamamartianchurch]

Worst historical figures in recent times that come to mind:

Joseph Stalin
Mao Ding Dong
Pol Pot
Kim Jong Wayne
FDR

In that order.

Did you seriously put Obama above Pol Pot? Are you ****ing mad? Pol Pot KILLED married couples because he believed marriage was an unequal institution. Obama doesn't deserve to be anywhere near this list. Jesus Christ.

[Tuff]

I didn't figure (F1 venom) you'd choose now to actually contribute something to a discussion around here. Not a surprise at all.

I suppose it's my fault that things Obama has done, have been done by past dictators. And this isn't about him, but the actual comparisons being made are fact. Deal with it.

[Tuff]

Originally Posted by Iamamartianchurch

Did you seriously put Obama above Pol Pot? Are you ****ing mad? Pol Pot KILLED married couples because he believed marriage was an unequal institution. Obama doesn't deserve to be anywhere near this list. Jesus Christ.

The people I listed were not in any type of order, I'll edit it to clarify. I'd agree that Stalin is the worst. Did you forget Hitler or figure him as more of a guy trying to reclaim what was actually theirs (Germany) in the first place?

[F1VENOM]

The post is so ridiculous, there's really nothing to contribute. Anything beyond your OP is going to be so skewed from reality all I can do is point that fact out and laugh.

Guns aren't even close to being outlawed and he has yet to kill anyone but you're saying he's up there with those guys? You have to be trolling. MAYBE if you went at this from the drones perspective you might have half a toe to stand on. This approach garners nothing but laughs.

[Space Pope]

Tuff want to have a pointless discussion about nothing. Neat.

[Iamamartianchurch]

Obama hasn't done anything even remotely in the same league. This is absurd.

I think this ranking thing could be fun though. With sober minds at least. Except mine. I didn't forget about Hitler.

[F1VENOM]

Originally Posted by Iamamartianchurch

Obama hasn't done anything even remotely in the same league. This is absurd.

I think this ranking thing could be fun though. With sober minds at least. Except mine. I didn't forget about Hitler.

We have health care, he's right up there with Stalin.

[Tuff]

Originally Posted by F1VENOM

MAYBE if you went at this from the drones perspective you might have half a toe to stand on. This approach garners nothing but laughs.

Oh, so you figure it's possible, given how events could shake out? Oh ok.

Originally Posted by Iamamartianchurch

Obama hasn't done anything even remotely in the same league. This is absurd.

I think this ranking thing could be fun though. With sober minds at least. Except mine. I didn't forget about Hitler.

The bold part is the purpose. The mention of Obama still stands as something that has happened more frequently as of late,. F1Venom can ***** all he wants, but I can't help what others are doing. Constitution and Supreme Court prevents Obama from straight up outlawing guns- who knows what he would do if they were not in place.

Ok then, Hitler below Pol Pot on your list, see who agrees.

[Iamamartianchurch]

Originally Posted by Tuff

Oh, so you figure it's possible, given how events could shake out? Oh ok.



The bold part is the purpose. The mention of Obama still stands as something that has happened more frequently as of late,. F1Venom can ***** all he wants, but I can't help what others are doing. Constitution and Supreme Court prevents Obama from straight up outlawing guns- who knows what he would do if they were not in place.

Ok then, Hitler below Pol Pot on your list, see who agrees.

Who knows what anyone would do if anything wasn't anyway but another way.

I disagree.

[barrel roll]

Hmm... no Roman Emperors. I decline.

[Treghc]

This is hilarious. Obama being considered anywhere near the worst historical figures is absolutely ****ing absurd. Hide behind the guise of "I just wanted to have fun" all you want. The real message you're trying putting out is quite obvious. If you were about having a serious discussion about the most horrific historical figures, Obama wouldn't even be mentioned. It's lost in your "he-could-possibly-do-this-if-this-were-like-this-and-that-happened-to-allow-this" stupid ****ing rhetoric that everyone is laughing at.

Someone should close this thread, then make one that is more appropriate, void of such anti-Obama undertones that have nothing at all to do with the "intended" subject.

[F1VENOM]

I'm saying the drone approach is less slippery than the one you're taking. Right now you're leaping to guns being outlawed now and drawing the false correlation that no guns means a murderous rampage by the administration in power. The logic is so flawed it's absurd. At least with drones you could say the administration is murdering people but it's still a ridiculous leap to Pol Pot.

[Iamamartianchurch]

Originally Posted by barrel roll

Hmm... no Roman Emperors. I decline.

Diocletian

[Treghc]

Originally Posted by F1VENOM

At least with drones you could say the administration is murdering people

Because it never did with actual fighter pilots, right? Not much has changed. We simply don't risk a military personell's life anymore.

I'll let this thread try and get to a decent subject though.

[Tuff]

Originally Posted by Treghc

If you were about having a serious discussion about the most horrific historical figures, Obama wouldn't even be mentioned. It's lost in your "he-could-possibly-do-this-if-this-were-like-this-and-that-happened-to-allow-this" stupid ****ing rhetoric that everyone is laughing at.

Someone should close this thread, then make one that is more appropriate, void of such anti-Obama undertones that have nothing at all to do with the "intended" subject.

And yet the fact remains that he shares some similarities with the mentioned individuals. And yet people have made the comparisons. Apparently, this is my fault.

Do me a favor. You can ***** about what I have said in this thread all you want. But I want you to address how Franklin D Roosevelt ranked ahead of Hitler on someone else list. Don't go calling me crazy for including a president when someone else did the same damn thing.

Originally Posted by F1VENOM

I'm saying the drone approach is less slippery than the one you're taking. Right now you're leaping to guns being outlawed now and drawing the false correlation that no guns means a murderous rampage by the administration in power. The logic is so flawed it's absurd. At least with drones you could say the administration is murdering people but it's still a ridiculous leap to Pol Pot.

I'm glad you were willing to admit that he has murdered people (innocent people) using drones. The drone analogy could be used instead, absolutely. Even the New York Times has s\questioned Obama multiple times on his "Aggressive drone usage"

My reason for citing guns was simple: He has clearly made intentions to crack down on gun laws. The Constitution and Supreme Court prevent him from doing whatever he pleases; this isn't a Dictatorship despite some thinking it has turned into one. Treghc and anyone else can ***** all they want, but Obama's Administration has made their thoughts on the matter known. The comparison with those other major dictators is real in social media. Hitler to the best of my knowledge, never actually confiscated guns from his people.
If you'd like, you can list George Bush. I considered it, but he's no longer in power now, and he never tried to take guns away in any form. Additionally (and I believe it was you who stated as much) Obama's use of drones far exceeds that of Bush.

It's a shame we cannot obtain a figure on how many he's killed with drones.

[F1VENOM]

Originally Posted by Treghc

Because it never did with actual fighter pilots, right? Not much has changed. We simply don't risk a military personell's life anymore.

I'll let this thread try and get to a decent subject though.

This is aside from personal feelings and the political debate about drone strikes. I'm saying at least people are killed with drones and you can link it to the current administration. Even if every single drone strike killed nothing but US citzens, we're still only at 4,700. That's 0.0096% of Ze-Dong's lower estimates as the largest genocide on history and the number of Americans is much lower than that. To compare the two is orders of magnitude worth of stupidity that hurts my brain.

Also why's FDR on your list?

This also means you can link it to the previous but that runs afoul of the agenda he's pushing. Claiming Obama is going to murder millions of people after installing a totalitarian regime after disarming the masses I'd say requires some serious signage.

[F1VENOM]

Originally Posted by Tuff

this isn't a Dictatorship despite some thinking it has turned into one.

So why do you insist on comparing him to dictators?

Originally Posted by Tuff

The comparison with those other major dictators is real in social media.

Why make yourself part of the problem by spewing the ****?

[TheSilentAssassin]

Hahahaha. This is officially my favorite thread of all time.

[Swerve22]

The original gun ban in germany was meant to get guns out of the hands of Hitlers SA and other violent groups, Hitler was happy to solidify it and use it against his enemies after he gained power.

Obama's goal is complete disarmament, regardless of what his supporters claim.