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Old 07-28-2015, 12:31 PM #1
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Assembling Tank/reg properly

Okay so I had my Crossfire Fiber bottle hydro tested by a company that specializes in fire extinguishers. I had the tank back in my possession and used it a few times for troubleshooting, no problem, until the pressure got below 1k. I realized the regulator was separating from the tank as I unscrewed the bottle.

So I personally would prefer my regulator be secured with loctite as I don't plan to fly with it. I reached out to Crossfire to ask how they recommend securing the Regulator to the tank. I've read they suggest blue loctite and 25lbs of torque...well this is kind of true. When I asked this is what Crossfire sent me:

"Here is the deal. Loctite usually has a break away torque of 24 foot lbs. 10 lbs would be sufficient and let the loctite do the rest of the work. The thing with loctite is that it needs active metal to cure. Steel and brass you do not need a primer on the threads. Anodized aluminum to raw aluminum basically has zero activity in the metal (no corrosion). Get a copper solution from your local hardware store and dib the threads and let dry before you apply the loctite. This will give you activity so the loctite cures. If you do not do this it will stay wet and not harden."

So the bold is the one step I have never read anywhere else. So just fyi. I was reading the stickied "Flying with tanks" thread and numerous people over the years were asking this very question with no answer. Hopefully this helps some folks out.
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Old 07-28-2015, 09:23 PM #2
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My regs are hand tight and have never unscrewed from the bottle, you could also try using a tool made by Ninja for removing/installing the reg.

http://www.hustlepaintball.com/Regul...rch_id=2561287
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Another rule of thumb, when unscrewing your tank from the ASA, grab it by the regulator, not the actual cylinder. This helps in avoiding separation from the regulator and tank.

Of course no one does this, but it is a good habit to apply to air systems.
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Old 07-29-2015, 01:55 PM #4
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Another rule of thumb, when unscrewing your tank from the ASA, grab it by the regulator, not the actual cylinder. This helps in avoiding separation from the regulator and tank.

Of course no one does this, but it is a good habit to apply to air systems.
Totally agree. I've always been in the habit of grabbing the bottle. Usually it's not an issue, but this past occurrence the ASA didn't bleed properly and I went for it before realizing it was still pressurized.

My tank has a large gauge so it's awkward and not very easy to grab by the regulator. After having the two separate though, I will certainly be breaking this bad habit.

@Gamer that tool would be sweet if it fit crossfire regulators.
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Old 07-29-2015, 03:31 PM #5
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My regs are hand tight and have never unscrewed from the bottle, you could also try using a tool made by Ninja for removing/installing the reg.

http://www.hustlepaintball.com/Regul...rch_id=2561287
we actually don't make that tool, that is made by Hustle based off our in house reg removal tools
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:30 PM #6
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we actually don't make that tool, that is made by Hustle based off our in house reg removal tools
Does Ninja utilize loctite (No, not lactate auto-correct) or some type of adhesive from the factory? What is Ninja's recommended method for securing the regulator to the tank?

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