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Old 02-17-2013, 02:18 PM #1
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Probably just the bolt right?

Luker ram (brass in it), light spring, palmers LPR, aka SST reg, Alias poppet

All in my 2k5 dragon thats using an orange bolt and my velocity tops out at 276. Reg sweet spotted and LPR at 90

The orange bolt is just to light im thinking

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Old 02-17-2013, 02:40 PM #2
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Old 02-17-2013, 02:42 PM #3
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I vote to use a stock bolt and a stock ram.
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Old 02-17-2013, 03:28 PM #4
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:28 PM #5
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I dont wanna.... i wanna be different!!! And i lost my stock bolt

Anyone have a bolt i can grab? Maybe two cuz ill probably mod one and break it.
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:50 PM #6
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And a Gen3 won't work in a dragon.
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:39 PM #7
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damn, time to hunt one down. gen 2 bolt. got yeah
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:20 PM #8
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:47 AM #9
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I vote to use a stock bolt and a stock ram.
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I'm there with Tim.
i understand that the stock bolt is the best, but i've always been a fan of lurkers products. Is there a reason why you don't recommend his ram? I have his ram in my prized gen3 build and it works great!
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:08 AM #10
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i understand that the stock bolt is the best, but i've always been a fan of lurkers products. Is there a reason why you don't recommend his ram? I have his ram in my prized gen3 build and it works great!
With the Orange bolt on there, the combo is too light to smack the poppet hard enough to get to 290+ FPS, this could possibly be solved by adding a QEV to the front barb port to remove the air cushion in front of the ram, but it's more work than it's worth (to most, in case anyone feels like reading some fluid dynamics on using a QEV, feel free to do so, 2nd to last post: http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...961&highlight= ), the easy way would be to get a heavier ram or a heavier bolt, in this case a heavier bolt would work fine and still keep reciprocating mass to a minimum; or raise dwell at the possible expense of efficiency.

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Old 02-19-2013, 09:44 AM #11
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orange bolt in a dragon?....didn't know they made orange bolts for Gen 2's...
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:39 PM #12
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I believe they did make a "pre-alias" version. I have two, but they're sitting in my parts bin. I had the same issue as the OP running with an eigenram and changed to a hydra bolt which solved the low velocity issue. Haven't had a chance to run the orange bolt with a stock ram, yet.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:36 PM #13
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With the Orange bolt on there, the combo is too light to smack the poppet hard enough to get to 290+ FPS, this could possibly be solved by adding a QEV to the front barb port to remove the air cushion in front of the ram, but it's more work than it's worth (to most, in case anyone feels like reading some fluid dynamics on using a QEV, feel free to do so, 2nd to last post: http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...961&highlight= ), the easy way would be to get a heavier ram or a heavier bolt, in this case a heavier bolt would work fine and still keep reciprocating mass to a minimum; or raise dwell at the possible expense of efficiency.
my question was why people don't like the lurker ram with the stock bolt
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:06 PM #14
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my question was why people don't like the lurker ram with the stock bolt
I like the lurker ram with the stock bolt....
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:47 PM #15
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Old 02-22-2013, 12:28 AM #17
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Have you tried without a poppet spring?

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