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Old 02-10-2013, 10:36 PM #1
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Question LCD double feeding

...I think.

I've been using my LCD with a halo too loader. The only other loader I've used was a revvy back in the day.

Occasionally I get what appears to be a bad chop, where I fire a broken paintball about 20 feet. This often happens when I'm not shooting rapidly, or even the first shot I take. This has happened 10-15 times in the 3 cases I've shot since dusting off the gun. Just from reading on here this sounds like it might be double feeding?

I have spare detents with allen key holes, and detents with the finger grippable groves. The spring tension seems roughly the same in all of them, so right now I'm using an allen key style, tightened in very tightly.

I've heard that ram adjustment can affect this. I've got the ram adjusted so there's a slight click with the bolt when the breach is closed with the gun gassed up. Should I try adjusting the ram further forward?

Is there anything else I can try? Reprogram the loader (I'm using the stock settings)? Should I just buy a different loader that's known to work better? Suggestions?

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Old 02-10-2013, 11:30 PM #2
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People used to run into that problem with HALO loaders a lot. Rollback is the primary cause - if you look down the feedneck you'll notice with the stock bolt that the ball actually rolls into the face of the bolt and allows the next ball in the stack to protrude slightly. When the ball stack is under tension from a force-feed loader, that next ball in the stack will get shredded. A soft face bolt, proper ram alignment, and a good detent will usually allow you to run a force feed loader without issue.
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:25 AM #3
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I agree.

Short of spending money, first try to tighten the snap ring more. If you don't chop paintballs after that, then there isn't a dior need to open the breech anyway.
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Old 02-11-2013, 11:18 AM #4
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Ok, I had a little room to screw the ram in more to where I can barely operate the breech, but it wasn't terribly adjusted before. I redid the snap ring adjustment too. I guess we'll see next week.

Does anyone know if other loaders are less likely to cause this problem?
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Old 02-11-2013, 11:21 AM #5
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Most likely you will run into the same problems with other force fed loaders. Is your halo a v35? If so, you can adjust the feed rate.

What kind of feed neck do you have? Best to use to a low rise.
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:21 PM #6
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I have a halo too, which is the sound activated one. I'd say that it works spectacularly if it wasn't for this double feeding thing.

I'm using a pretty standard mid-rise feed neck. I have a spare that's a low rise but the anno doesn't match
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:38 PM #7
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soft face bolt will likely have the most impact on this issue.
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Old 02-11-2013, 04:16 PM #8
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I haven't had a chance to pick up air until tomorrow. I'm worried about double feeding on my LED. Although it's got a brand new detent, I'm hoping that my Rotor isn't overkill.
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Old 02-11-2013, 09:22 PM #9
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soft face bolt will likely have the most impact on this issue.
Indeed. If you can't find one, you can make a DIY remedy by installing a small set screw into the center of your bolt face such that it protrudes to the outside edge of the bolt so that the ball can't roll back into the concave face. Cap the screw with a dab of your favorite glue to prevent it from tearing balls.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:10 PM #10
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Update:

I adjusted the ram as far forward as possible while still being able to (barely) operate the breech, and the problem went away completely. I shot just under a case today without a single breech break.

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Old 02-17-2013, 11:23 PM #11
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Rollback was definitely your issue then. As mentioned before, if you can find a soft face bolt or any type of flat-faced aftermarket bolt, that will help quite a bit to prevent the problem as well.
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