Autococker Trilogy SF

msweeneygt · 01-18-2011, 10:43 PM

I recently picked up an Autococker Trilogy SF for cheap and being the type of person that has to upgrade every gun he gets, this one was no different. Problem is I have never even held an Autococker before, let alone built one. Here is the one I'm getting.

The only thing I really want to do is replace the trigger. and maybe the frame. I saw where you could go as far as Eclipse and NDZ frames but those are out of my price range. The gun already has a clamping feedneck and upgraded on/off ASA. I don't need to get a better board because the gun is going to be nothing but a fancy backup. Barrel kit is already purchased. Suggestions on a better bolt would help. Maybe replace the cocking rod knob for cosmetics. I read about adjustable actuating rods (correct me if I'm wrong) to help the guns performance. Any suggestions on better efficiency is helpful. I have a few good misc. aftermarket HP regs so that is covered. What is the best pneus (that are small and compatible for this Trilogy) recommended? Here is a picture of a frame I would like to have if it is compatible with the Trilogy SF.

ficone · 01-19-2011, 03:43 AM

The frame you want to put on is a mech frame and the marker your getting is electro. I dont much care for the trilly line as they are not truly an autococker. Some like them,but i do not.

msweeneygt · 01-19-2011, 04:56 AM

OK frame no good. Any other advice on my other questions?

ficone · 01-19-2011, 12:46 PM

Any 2k+ bolt will do and the neck is theaded. You can change cocking rod if you want but will make no diff other than looks. Also get Techt for more upgrades.

ficone · 01-19-2011, 12:47 PM

I ment go to thier website.

barrel roll · 01-19-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ficone

... I dont much care for the trilly line as they are not truly an autococker. ...

You know, I never truly understood why people said this. Is it because the valve is smaller? The 3 way is built in to the body? Or it has no remnant of being a Sniper (front block) on it?

hansolo8221 · 01-20-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by barrel roll

You know, I never truly understood why people said this. Is it because the valve is smaller? The 3 way is built in to the body? Or it has no remnant of being a Sniper (front block) on it?

The valve on a Trilogy is actually larger.

I am actually fond of the Trilogy concept for streamlining the autococker and making it more symmetrical. Sort of what System X, Hybrid, and AKA did with making frontblocks with a central LPR, except the Trilogy goes farther in removing the frontblock entirely. The problem with the Trilogy was that the concept was taken and built into an "entry-level" marker; the same concept could have been used to create a "high-end" marker. Sort of what the SR ended up being, although by the time it came out cockers had fallen from popularity, so it never really caught on.

To answer the OP, you're pretty much set with the upgrades you mentioned, the feedneck and ASA. Switching the HPR will help as the stock regs are not externally adjustable. If you want an externally adjustable LPR as well, Palmer's makes a Micro-Rock for the Trilogy, also, Techt makes an adapter that allows you to use any standard LPR on the Trilogy.

You won't need to worry about using the Techt adjustable timing rod, your marker is electronic, so it doesn't use a timing rod.

A new bolt may not be necessary, I'm not sure but that Trilogy might come with a delrin bolt already. Once you get it and see what you have you can decide what you need.

If you want to go all-out Palmer's also makes a replacement valve for the Trilogy, which may let you run lower pressures; you can also get a spring kit so you can swap springs for more custom tuning.

Cocking rods are really going to be simply what you can find available, and what style and color you prefer, other then that they will all function the same. There used to be a cocking rod that had a special tool that allowed you to adjust the IVG without removing the cocking rod, but I don't remember what it's called or even if you could still find it.

That about sums it up for upgrades. You could also upgrade the ram too, but may require slight modification to the body. And once you start down that road you open up the whole possibility of mid-blocking and half-blocking as well.

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Originally Posted by ficone

The frame you want to put on is a mech frame and the marker your getting is electro. I dont much care for the trilly line as they are not truly an autococker. Some like them,but i do not.

So, would you say that this is not truly and autococker?

smoke888 · 01-20-2011, 03:42 PM

I like the Trilogy, and i love that. ^^^^^^ looks nice.

ficone · 01-20-2011, 04:36 PM

That one looks really nice and im sure its a nice shooter but i still do not like the line.

crazyfoolx311 · 01-28-2011, 10:59 AM

ok so i ve been out of the game for a awhile and im running into the same issue i just bought a trilogy with a co2 tank for 25bucks .... im not going to run co2 on it.... i have a dye ultralite for it and my next upgrade will be a reg....... my question is whats a good e-trigger to throw on it............?or can it have a etrigger? im familar with the e1 eblade trigger but other than e1,e2 i dont know any other etriggers for the cocker will are compatibable with the trilogy........ whats the cheap/good etrigger? thanks.........also.... whats a good reg to throw on this bad boy......

loneassassin · 01-29-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyfoolx311

ok so i ve been out of the game for a awhile and im running into the same issue i just bought a trilogy with a co2 tank for 25bucks .... im not going to run co2 on it.... i have a dye ultralite for it and my next upgrade will be a reg....... my question is whats a good e-trigger to throw on it............?or can it have a etrigger? im familar with the e1 eblade trigger but other than e1,e2 i dont know any other etriggers for the cocker will are compatibable with the trilogy........ whats the cheap/good etrigger? thanks.........also.... whats a good reg to throw on this bad boy......

Most likely that Dye Ultralite will be FAR too big for most paint, and you'll get rollouts. You can fix that by putting electrical or masking tape strips on the breech end of the barrel, or you can use nail polish "detents" in a similar fashion.

An E1 or E2 trigger will fit just fine, as well as any other E-frame for Cockers. You just need to buy an Trilogy adapter (I think Paintball Gateway.com has them) so you have something to attach the solenoid to. I would recommend going with an E2 frame, and an E2 board if you can find one. (or a Tadao Yakuza if you can afford it.) PBGateway also has E1 Frames with no components, and you can build one up.

As far as regs go, I ran a CP reg on my Trilogy Sport when it had an E2 on it, and it worked great. Just make sure the reg you buy goes up to 500psi - you might need it, then again, you might not. Mine needs 500psi.

All other parts can be upgraded to normal Autococker parts, you just need an adapter to run a different Lpr. Some rams may require a little filing to get the nut to fit, since Trilogies are very compact.

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Originally Posted by ficone

I dont much care for the trilly line as they are not truly an autococker. Some like them,but i do not.

I too, am curious as to how you arrived at that conclusion. They have all of the same parts and the firing cycle is identical. The only difference is that the 3-way is built into the body.

loneassassin · 01-29-2011, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hansolo8221

Beautiful gun, hansolo8221!!!

That got me thinking I need to build up another one like that, seeing as how "they are not real autocockers" so you can get them practically free...

StarfuryTH · 01-29-2011, 02:08 PM

I'm fond of my Trilogy Tactical SF. I haven't really found any need to upgrade it aside from adding a clamping feedneck and a barrel. The bolt is delrin and the gun works flawlessly in stock form. It's faster than I would ever need on the field. A valve, spring kit, and tweaking the LPR might make a difference in recoil and sound signature, but I don't see why you'd need to go through all that effort in tuning when it's only really a backup gun.

msweeneygt · 01-31-2011, 06:50 AM

I know its a funny concept to want to put a $100+ frame on an entry level Autococker but is it possible to mount and use an Eclipse frame on a Trilogy? Can you MQ2 a Trilogy?

hansolo8221 · 01-31-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by msweeneygt

I know its a funny concept to want to put a $100+ frame on an entry level Autococker but is it possible to mount and use an Eclipse frame on a Trilogy? Can you MQ2 a Trilogy?

Yes on both counts. With the Eblade you just need a simple adapter to mount the cocking solenoid on the front (since the solenoid normally mounts in the 3way hole in the frontblock, and the Trilogy is lacking this feature). For an MQ2 you just get the 11/16" body one, rather than the standard cocker one.

As for the costs, I don't even want to begin to add up what the Trilogy above cost me to build...and then I went and sold it

msweeneygt · 01-31-2011, 07:00 PM

Awesome. I think I may turn a $60 gun into something a little more costly.

Squishy face · 04-09-2013, 10:27 PM

Ive got an electronic Trilogy, i need to find the T fitting that connects the Solenoid to the 3 way.... anyone know where to find one?