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Old 03-04-2013, 08:35 PM #22
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so the air channels didnt change from macro to macroless trying to understand your concept when you go that route since the main point that always comes out SLP is not need LP is fine when we answer that most frequent post
you are grossly missing the point here that is being made. pressure from the tank DOES NOT go directly to the noid. it is regulated by the HIGH PRESSURE REGULATOR, and LOW PRESSURE REGULATOR. if you take apart the lpr and hpr on most guns they have similar designs and work the same way. as trigger stated earlier the first that will go is going to be a body seal. there are multiple things that will fail, and you will notice obviously when they do, before the noid is in danger.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:36 PM #23
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No and if you would have read my above post about what has to fail for the solenoid to be in danger you would have knew that. Or if you knew how your marker operates that would had been a dead giveaway...


The reason LP or SLP is recommended is for the seals on the ASA to Frame and Frame to body. Again knowing how the marker operates helps alot when understanding the marker...
damn you beat me to it lol
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:37 PM #24
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ok so what happens if i take the 900 plus tank i use on my auto mag and put it on my g6r 2011s have the screw on and off asa with oring on the pin and a micro oring from that to the body come on really you guys are reaching
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so the air channels didnt change from macro to macroless trying to understand your concept when you go that route since the main point that always comes out SLP is not need LP is fine when we answer that most frequent post
Apparently your not understanding what they are trying to say...
The noid is never going to see the full output pressure of the tank reg, the pressure at most would be around 200 if the LPR failed. I do believe the Vice and G6R share noids and I have seen Vice's run season after season running nothing but high pressure. The internal pathway seals for the air through on the G6R and Victory are what cannot handle high pressure for extended periods of use.
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ok so what happens if i take the 900 plus tank i use on my auto mag and put it on my g6r 2011s have the screw on and off asa with oring on the pin and a micro oring from that to the body come on really you guys are reaching
and yet again you are missing the point here.
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ok so what happens if i take the 900 plus tank i use on my auto mag and put it on my g6r 2011s have the screw on and off asa with oring on the pin and a micro oring from that to the body come on really you guys are reaching
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ok so what happens if i take the 900 plus tank i use on my auto mag and put it on my g6r 2011s have the screw on and off asa with oring on the pin and a micro oring from that to the body come on really you guys are reaching
You will have issue with your marker, and going off your 3 threads about your Valken you still haven't learned...

900psi output from the tank will more then likely cause the asa and frame orings to blow and leak, your regs(both HPR and LPR) will still function fine.
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sometimes ignorance, and stubbornness can not be helped
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my apologizes to the OP, normally you can get some great advice here. I would follow the advice gamer55, and trigger have posted
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i understand i just refuse to belive that running a 800 plus tank is fine as you all state yes on older timmys but oh no on 2011 and up
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That is because on the G6R and Victory they have INTERNAL air paths. These INTERNAL air paths have connection points.

ASA to Frame
Frame To Body

These connection points have orings to seal them..

The orings will most likely blow out at HIGH PRESSURE. It happens a lot, some people get lucky never have problem.

That is why Bob Long THE CREATOR suggest using LP or SLP as it is LESS PRESSURE on the CONNECTION point ORINGS so they are not as likely to blow out.

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i understand i just refuse to belive that running a 800 plus tank is fine as you all state yes on older timmys but oh no on 2011 and up
PLZ GO BACK AND READ...no one said you will not have problems. you will have multiple problems before the noid is in danger. I.E. asa, asa oring, body seals, etc...noticeable problems
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i understand i just refuse to belive that running a 800 plus tank is fine as you all state yes on older timmys but oh no on 2011 and up
Because the Gen1-5 doesn't have the air going through internal passages in the ASA and frame. Gen1-5 use macroline to transport the air from the ASA to the HPR. Where as the Gen6 ASA seals against the frame using a small oring to allow to macroless and internal air passages. The small oring between the ASA to frame and frame to body is where the issues lye when trying to use HP tank output(550+ psi).

For **** sacks do some research, learn how the marker works, and use some damn punctuations.

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im not attacking my own gun im just saying like we all have are you running a LP or slp reg of course the regs adjust the pressure but you just might blow a body seal or oring here or there if you run over 500
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i understand i just refuse to belive that running a 800 plus tank is fine as you all state yes on older timmys but oh no on 2011 and up
Because you will blow the body and frame se-

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but you just might blow a body seal or oring here or there if you run over 500
...Yes. So if you are aware of that being a problem why are you still trying to say using a high pressure tank will work? I'm confused.
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you should always be using dow 55 on the ram.
why.




you dont ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever have to use dow55 on the rammer orings.
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you dont ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever have to use dow55 on the rammer orings.
last time i checked it says so in the manual....
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you dont ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever have to use dow55 on the rammer orings.
Why not?
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Why not?
use what you want. Not using dow55 on the rammer wont have negative effects. I sure dont like to purposely swell my moving orings that already seal perfectly.

id rather use dow55 because i want to rather than using it because I was told to by so who also has no idea why they "should" be using it. Rather they think they should be using it but it is not a requirement anymore. Bob Long guns are very tight fitting and the tolerances are great. No need to force orings to swell up and make the already perfect seal more perfect, especially on an oring that moves. Yeah, it works fine if you do use it but its not a requirement.

I use it on our new BL guns for warranty purposes in the event we need to send a gun in. The 5 or so guns i dont use it on shoot perfect, everyday, all day.
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Some people have reported leaks using Dow 33. If you aren't leaking then it's fine but there have been instances where Dow 33 has led to leaks. If you have both you might as well use what the factory recommends.

You will never run into trouble if you use Dow 55. You might run into trouble using something else.
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