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Old 02-03-2013, 10:52 PM #1
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axe shooting problem again

Ok so whenever I start to shoot a lane my axe drops in fps for example, when I would shoot 1 ball to chrono it was at 290 but when I shoot a quick lane it shoots 265ish any ideas y. Dwell at 4, 150psi, medium spring with bosd bolt, slp reg and I use hater sauce. PsI also bounces a lot
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:19 AM #2
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I replaced my regulator and I dot have this problem.

I also I cleaned the marker, rebuilt o-rings, and cleaned the selonoid. The asa/reg on the marker was my culput.
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:56 AM #3
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:13 AM #4
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:12 AM #5
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Barrel i.d. ?
cf boomy .688 perfect match it isn't the paint

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I replaced my regulator and I dot have this problem.

I also I cleaned the marker, rebuilt o-rings, and cleaned the selonoid. The asa/reg on the marker was my culput.
thats not good haha. Ill try to clean it first to avoid having to buy a new 1

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Old 02-04-2013, 11:25 AM #6
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"Possibly" the slp could just not be charging it fast enough.

I've said it once back in another thread, Just because someone gets a fluke marker that can operate at 120 psi and shoot 290, doesn't mean everyone's will.

Same goes for regs on tanks. Just because you've heard/seen that it *should* work, doesn't necessarily mean it WILL work with yours. I'd say first things first, try a different tank with either a mid-high output.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:36 AM #7
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"Possibly" the slp could just not be charging it fast enough.

I've said it once back in another thread, Just because someone gets a fluke marker that can operate at 120 psi and shoot 290, doesn't mean everyone's will.

Same goes for regs on tanks. Just because you've heard/seen that it *should* work, doesn't necessarily mean it WILL work with yours. I'd say first things first, try a different tank with either a mid-high output.
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:07 PM #8
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"Possibly" the slp could just not be charging it fast enough.

I've said it once back in another thread, Just because someone gets a fluke marker that can operate at 120 psi and shoot 290, doesn't mean everyone's will.

Same goes for regs on tanks. Just because you've heard/seen that it *should* work, doesn't necessarily mean it WILL work with yours. I'd say first things first, try a different tank with either a mid-high output.
Very true I feel stupid for not thinking of this. Thank u good sir
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:48 PM #9
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The SLP reg will work properly with an axe. An Axe with a Boss bolt operates at a lower pressure than the G6R or the Vic. So the Axe actually has a bigger buffer than Bob Longs guns.

Have you lubed your regulator lately?
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:26 PM #10
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And the Axe is also, even with boss, not supposed to be able to operate at anything less than ~130, yet there was someone not too awful long ago who had a STOCK setup running at ~100. I still maintain that a possible reason behind this is the SLP.

Don't G6R's knock that 200 input down to like 70 or 80 something with it's 2 stage system? While the input is as high as a regular axe, it's actual OP is half that of a boss'd axe, so even if it was only getting in 150 psi, it only needs ~80 to work. (I may be wrong on that, but the way I understood the design was like that)
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:34 PM #11
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The SLP reg comes set to 300psi if the operating pressure of the Axe is 200 stock what's the problem with using the SLP?
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:00 PM #12
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And the Axe is also, even with boss, not supposed to be able to operate at anything less than ~130, yet there was someone not too awful long ago who had a STOCK setup running at ~100. I still maintain that a possible reason behind this is the SLP.

Don't G6R's knock that 200 input down to like 70 or 80 something with it's 2 stage system? While the input is as high as a regular axe, it's actual OP is half that of a boss'd axe, so even if it was only getting in 150 psi, it only needs ~80 to work. (I may be wrong on that, but the way I understood the design was like that)
60-70psi for the lpr only. The HPR is still 180-210

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None. Used slp all last year on multiple axes. No issues at all.
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:22 PM #13
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cf boomy .688 perfect match it isn't the paint
Where in the heck are you getting .688 sized paint at? I know a lot of guys with fixed barrel pumps that would kill for paint that big lol.

And I really think the problem is in your reg. Trying running some oil thru it. If that doesn't help call tech support. They might just send ya a free replacement if they agree its the reg.
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:25 PM #14
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Its the SLP, it does the same thing on my geo, getting rid of the SLP and the geo though ahahah
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Just email Kee, they'll send you a new reg, no questions asked.
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:29 PM #16
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Its the SLP, it does the same thing on my geo, getting rid of the SLP and the geo though ahahah
The Geo is designed only to work with HP tanks, that's why the LP tank doesn't work on it. They require a LP spring for their HPR to operate properly with any LP tank.
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Old 02-04-2013, 07:29 PM #17
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Ok a little update I raised the reg to 165ish and its shooting a lot better but no I havent messed witg my reg yet I figured I would try that last, keep in mind this is a brand new gun with 5 cases now threw it so it could just need some breaking in. When I ran a slp on my geo 2 it was crazy efficient hopper+8pods.
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Old 02-04-2013, 07:55 PM #18
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When I ran a slp on my geo 2 it was crazy efficient hopper+8pods.
I have an Axe with a Crossfire LP running 450 psi into the gun, 140 psi shooting in the mid 270's and a Boss Infamous bolt and average about 10 pods (or 9 and a rotor) off a 68/4500 with approx 500 psi left in the tank after, but I am underboring with a .682 so that could be an area to look into.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:32 PM #19
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Make sure your bolt guide orings fit decently. If they are too loose they won't seal and it will cause shoot down.

Study this:

http://paintball.newkamikaze.com/scheme.php?id=11

You will then understand why you need your bolt guide orings to seal. You must also make sure your poppet and battery are lubed and fresh.

ALSO, Hater Sauce contains petroleum additives. Ask them for a MSDS. They wil; never admit it under any other cicumstance. It creates a slick lube however it is bad for your orings.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:44 PM #20
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I have an Axe with a Crossfire LP running 450 psi into the gun, 140 psi shooting in the mid 270's and a Boss Infamous bolt and average about 10 pods (or 9 and a rotor) off a 68/4500 with approx 500 psi left in the tank after, but I am underboring with a .682 so that could be an area to look into.
forsure thanks for ur input appreciate it.

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Make sure your bolt guide orings fit decently. If they are too loose they won't seal and it will cause shoot down.

Study this:

http://paintball.newkamikaze.com/scheme.php?id=11

You will then understand why you need your bolt guide orings to seal. You must also make sure your poppet and battery are lubed and fresh.

ALSO, Hater Sauce contains petroleum additives. Ask them for a MSDS. They wil; never admit it under any other cicumstance. It creates a slick lube however it is bad for your orings.
what do u recommend I use ive got down33.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:08 AM #21
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Dow33 will work fine. It's the recommended lube for the Axe and the base for a lot of other paintball lubes.
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