Originally Posted by shokertm
Wasn't talking about Op.
You're the one making the baseless claims about guns producing spin. Show me proof and I will the first person to admit I was wrong. The impartial tests I have seen with a gun clamped in a vice have shown no difference in range or accuracy. High speed vids show that it produces backspin occasionally when the conditions are exactly right but it apparently doesn't produce enough to make a difference.
I'm not saying spin doesn't affect trajectory because the Apex and Flatline clearly show it does. I'm saying there is not a gun that produces such spin on the market right now despite what Alien claims and until I see someone prove it with an impartial test (as in not the one video of it working that was made by Alien) I'm going to continue to say that.
Planet Eclipse, Dye, Bob Long, DLX, all of these companies have very smart engineers working for them. If back spin bolts actually worked then why is Alien the only company with one? Every other major PB gun company doubtless has engineers that are talented enough to see the potential in such a thing yet no other company offers it. Why would that be if backspin bolts were so miraculous? It's probably because they don't work.
If you're going to call 2 entire boards full of people ignorant you should probably have some evidence proving your wild claim to be true.