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Old 03-10-2012, 04:32 AM #1
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Empire Axe Nano Feedneck

Hey guys,

I recently picked up an axe with a Nano Feedneck upgrade. it looks great and all but I was wondering,

How do I get my hopper (seen below)


to sit flush with the Nano feedneck (like this one I found in the picture thread)


I have the hopper pushed down as far as it'll go. Do people sand down their hopper feednecks or something? And if I did that, wouldn't it mess with the height of the ball stack, and thus potentially throw off the function of the hopper?

Thanks in advance for you input!
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Old 03-10-2012, 04:37 AM #2
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Yep, people cut down their hopper feeds to fit into their feednecks to reduce profile.

I don't think the reduced length would affect the ball stack feeding for most loaders since many use tension which would be the same regardless of distance?
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Old 03-10-2012, 08:12 AM #3
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Yup, cut the feedneck on the hopper down. If you want to be super technical, figure out how much height you've lost by using the nano feedneck and then try to cut the hopper down just enough to make up the diameter of one paintball.

But it really doesn't matter at all. I have a Velocity Jr. that was cut down, but I also have a rotor that I'm leaving alone. Cut it down if you want.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:40 AM #4
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I'm not so sure it wouldn't affect proper feeding. If the stack bottoms out and your feedneck has 1.5 balls exposed, thats just asking for a breach chop imo.
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Old 03-10-2012, 02:06 PM #5
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Okay. So I did a search on sanding / cutting feednecks. I'm a little more informed now. Just checking tho, the Halo Too is sound activated, so it doesn't have eyes right? So I don't have to worry about the eyes reading just between balls after shaving?
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Old 03-10-2012, 02:07 PM #6
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Also, what do you guys suggest? Cut with a saw and then smooth out with sandpaper? or sandpaper all the way?
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Old 03-10-2012, 08:19 PM #7
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Saw would be faster. Just make sure you cut straight other wise thats more sanding for you to do.
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Old 03-10-2012, 10:27 PM #8
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Cut with saw, clean up any burrs with sandpaper when you're done.
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Old 03-10-2012, 11:24 PM #9
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Definitely clean burrs that form on the inside of the feedneck.
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:33 AM #10
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I have to admit, i want to shave down my Z2.
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Old 03-11-2012, 07:58 PM #11
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I haven't done any research, but I can't see how external loader geometry would affect the internal ball stack. Lessening the height of the feeder stack doesn't change the room a ball has inside the gun. I also can't imagine that loaders would be sensitive to stack height, because every gun is bound to be slightly different.
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Old 03-13-2012, 03:07 AM #12
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Sorry, stupid question but what about he plastic runway? do I just cut through that via the same method I cut through the "shell" part of the feedneck?

I just wanna make sure I don't ruin a perfectly good loader
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Old 03-13-2012, 04:03 AM #13
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Sorry, stupid question but what about he plastic runway? do I just cut through that via the same method I cut through the "shell" part of the feedneck?

I just wanna make sure I don't ruin a perfectly good loader
i'd mark where you wanted to cut, then take the plastic runways out of the shell. i'd use a cutting disk on a dremmel tool, just because it cuts through the plastic very easy and reduces the risk of cracking it.
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I haven't done any research, but I can't see how external loader geometry would affect the internal ball stack. Lessening the height of the feeder stack doesn't change the room a ball has inside the gun. I also can't imagine that loaders would be sensitive to stack height, because every gun is bound to be slightly different.
The ball stack issue is kind of a dated one. The older Halo Bs, V35s and anything else that used an optical sensor were prone to this problem. Your loader would think it was jammed if the ball stack sat so there wasn't enough of an obstruction in the feedneck to say "hey there's a ball here".

For example if the spot where 2 balls touched was right at the height where the sensor was, it might think there's nothing in the feedneck, so the drive cone would try to spin, but couldn't feed any paint since there actually was paint there (by this criteria, the loader logic detects this as a jam).

This is just one problem that sound activation and tension sensing helped solve.
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Old 03-13-2012, 01:29 PM #15
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The ball stack issue is kind of a dated one. The older Halo Bs, V35s and anything else that used an optical sensor were prone to this problem. Your loader would think it was jammed if the ball stack sat so there wasn't enough of an obstruction in the feedneck to say "hey there's a ball here".

For example if the spot where 2 balls touched was right at the height where the sensor was, it might think there's nothing in the feedneck, so the drive cone would try to spin, but couldn't feed any paint since there actually was paint there (by this criteria, the loader logic detects this as a jam).

This is just one problem that sound activation and tension sensing helped solve.
Okay. My Halo Too is sound activated so I shouldn't have to worry about this problem.
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So just to clarify: I can slice down my Z2 neck a few mm, and it won't affect feeding negatively?
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:42 AM #17
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So just to clarify: I can slice down my Z2 neck a few mm, and it won't affect feeding negatively?
yeah bu why my Z2 sits flush on the mini and etha, unless you have the nano then i could see it
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:36 AM #18
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:58 PM #19
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make sure you stuff something down the loader's feed to prevent plastic pieces from getting into your loader... I cut my vlocity jr. down quite a bot with a hand saw and medium sandpaper. Took me 5 minutes to cut and 10 minutes of rigorous sanding, but it looks pretty good and doesn't affect its performance what so ever.
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If you have a Z2 just purchase another backbone from Boss. That way if you screw the pooch you can switch back. You'll have to fully disassemble your loader but as long as you can sit through Simon's video you should be okay.
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Old 03-18-2012, 07:43 PM #21
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I want my loader to sit flush... but f that... i'm not cutting down my expensive hopper lol...
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