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02-10-2013, 10:32 AM
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Looks like all concept stuff. Has a production quality gun been made yet?
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02-10-2013, 10:47 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2011
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Vanguard creed 2.0? 
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02-10-2013, 11:37 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NOVA
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Originally Posted by Dr. S. Holmes
Looks like all concept stuff. Has a production quality gun been made yet?
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I would seriously hope so, seeing as it is being released at PBE. Thats just over 2 weeks away. |
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02-10-2013, 01:03 PM
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LOST
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Norđwegr
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With the amount of stuff coming out of the woodworks at pbe this runs the risk of drowning under the big boys.
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02-10-2013, 01:09 PM
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: F.O.D
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2013 is gonna be sick as fuuuuuuuuu. I tried to quit and this damn sport keeps sucking me back in!
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02-10-2013, 01:41 PM
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El Jefe
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NOVA
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This is looking to be the next gun that I get that isn't a pump if it's as good as it seems like it's gonna be.
Means I gotta get another nice loader again. My revvy just won't do this gun justice.
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02-10-2013, 01:48 PM
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Eat it BEEOTCHES
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Midwest
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Yeah good point man. Picking between the two empire guns, the J4 gun, a new PE Ego by chance. Who know what other surprises we don't know about yet.
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02-10-2013, 01:53 PM
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LOST
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Norđwegr
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Originally Posted by JUJU
Yeah good point man. Picking between the two empire guns, the J4 gun, a new PE Ego by chance. Who know what other surprises we don't know about yet.
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02-10-2013, 02:51 PM
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Eat it BEEOTCHES
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by Vegard
There's others too |
Feel free to share the knowledge.
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02-10-2013, 03:00 PM
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The Moose God
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: UK
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Originally Posted by JUJU
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I don't think we'd be allowed. I know of one other marker being released - no details, but if the past work is anything to go by, it should be very nice 
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02-10-2013, 03:05 PM
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LOST
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Norđwegr
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Originally Posted by JUJU
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02-10-2013, 03:16 PM
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Mowing Fools Since 1987
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: On a cozy street corner
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Originally Posted by Egos4flifeguy
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02-10-2013, 03:42 PM
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Eat it BEEOTCHES
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Midwest
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Well great more money to bring to the show. Looks like a competition for my money. Price point is going to be key.
PM me to give me any details. Or add my email for updates
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02-11-2013, 12:28 AM
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Keyboard Warrior
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Tampa, FL
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I think I stated this earlier, and the following posts have proven my point.
People are expecting the best features of both spool and poppet, like this is the gun that bridges the gaps and is the perfect marker. In truth it is a simple spool valve blow forward that is set up to be stacked tube.
So, people who are expecting a poppet's efficiency with a super smooth shot are going to be disappointed.
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02-11-2013, 06:07 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Behind my dorito
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Originally Posted by Paper_Cut
I think I stated this earlier, and the following posts have proven my point.
People are expecting the best features of both spool and poppet, like this is the gun that bridges the gaps and is the perfect marker. In truth it is a simple spool valve blow forward that is set up to be stacked tube.
So, people who are expecting a poppet's efficiency with a super smooth shot are going to be disappointed.
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02-11-2013, 07:12 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Livonia, MI
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Originally Posted by Paper_Cut
I think I stated this earlier, and the following posts have proven my point.
People are expecting the best features of both spool and poppet, like this is the gun that bridges the gaps and is the perfect marker. In truth it is a simple spool valve blow forward that is set up to be stacked tube.
So, people who are expecting a poppet's efficiency with a super smooth shot are going to be disappointed.
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Since you couldn't even figure out the basic functions of the drawing provided, I'd say maybe you should tone down the absolutism. Just a suggestion.
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02-11-2013, 07:18 AM
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Eat it BEEOTCHES
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Midwest
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paper_Cut
I think I stated this earlier, and the following posts have proven my point.
People are expecting the best features of both spool and poppet, like this is the gun that bridges the gaps and is the perfect marker. In truth it is a simple spool valve blow forward that is set up to be stacked tube.
So, people who are expecting a poppet's efficiency with a super smooth shot are going to be disappointed.
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Sorry to hate on your post but funny how everyone has become an expert on paintball technology. With seeing just a generic picture of the guns internal people have already guessed on the effeciency and the operation of this thing. I will have to say I'm not going to think this is going to be a major stepping stone in paintball technology but I would love them to prove me wrong. Guess just have to wait and see in two weeks to see it in person, unless they plan to release some more info and pictures before hand.
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02-11-2013, 11:55 AM
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Keyboard Warrior
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Tampa, FL
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Originally Posted by JUJU
Sorry to hate on your post but funny how everyone has become an expert on paintball technology. With seeing just a generic picture of the guns internal people have already guessed on the effeciency and the operation of this thing. I will have to say I'm not going to think this is going to be a major stepping stone in paintball technology but I would love them to prove me wrong. Guess just have to wait and see in two weeks to see it in person, unless they plan to release some more info and pictures before hand.
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Originally Posted by Gisgo09
Since you couldn't even figure out the basic functions of the drawing provided, I'd say maybe you should tone down the absolutism. Just a suggestion.
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I'm just saying people should expect reality, not a gun that gets 2500 shots to a 68/45, has no kick, makes no noise, weighs less than 2lbs with barrel, and requires almost no maintenance. I'm sure it will be a good gun, and may have some of those, but if people are expecting more some supergun that puts everything else to shame by being better than every other gun in every way, they will be disappointed when it does come out, and will most likely say its **** because it doesn't live up to their impossible expectations. |
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02-11-2013, 12:01 PM
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KEE, The new Smart Parts
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: oregon
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Originally Posted by Paper_Cut
I'm just saying people should expect reality, not a gun that gets 2500 shots to a 68/45, has no kick, makes no noise, weighs less than 2lbs with barrel, and requires almost no maintenance. I'm sure it will be a good gun, and may have some of those, but if people are expecting more some supergun that puts everything else to shame by being better than every other gun in every way, they will be disappointed when it does come out, and will most likely say its **** because it doesn't live up to their impossible expectations.
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I've read most of the thread might have missed a few posts but where is anyone claiming 2500 shots, the only thing i've seen is someone posted about 1600 shots. |
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02-11-2013, 12:07 PM
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REAGAN SMASH
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: IL, 630
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Originally Posted by Paper_Cut
I'm just saying people should expect reality, not a gun that gets 2500 shots to a 68/45, has no kick, makes no noise, weighs less than 2lbs with barrel, and requires almost no maintenance. I'm sure it will be a good gun, and may have some of those, but if people are expecting more some supergun that puts everything else to shame by being better than every other gun in every way, they will be disappointed when it does come out, and will most likely say its **** because it doesn't live up to their impossible expectations.
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Who's saying the gun is going to be like that? You're just pulling stuff out of your *** and spazzing out about it on the internet.
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02-11-2013, 12:18 PM
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Keyboard Warrior
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Tampa, FL
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Originally Posted by bulzeye
I've read most of the thread might have missed a few posts but where is anyone claiming 2500 shots, the only thing i've seen is someone posted about 1600 shots.
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Originally Posted by PeaTear_Griffin
Who's saying the gun is going to be like that? You're just pulling stuff out of your *** and spazzing out about it on the internet.
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It was a hyperbole to try and get a point across. Why are you trying to take apart everything I say? To prove I'm not an expert on the gun? I'm not, I know very little about the gun. What I do know is what happens to things that are over-hyped. People take their wildest fantasies and expect them to become reality, then whenever it doesn't, they get mad and lash out at the company.(maybe that is why kee isn't releasing any info about the supposed "Vanquish")
When J4's gun does come out, we need to accept it for the qualities it has, not cut the gun down because it didn't live up to everything we imagined.
Pleasing everyone is impossible, and I imagine J4 did they best they could with what they had, and the next gen will only be better.
Let me put it another way: I am simply trying to keep people's feet on the ground. If this doesn't apply to you, then I'm not talking to you.
Last edited by Paper_Cut : 02-11-2013 at 12:23 PM.
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