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Old 01-31-2013, 07:10 PM #1
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possible scam by relooded1 [Banned and Resolved]]

I agreed deal with relooded1 for a pair of Dye I4s. I sent Payment via paypal. on January 18th. I have opened a dispute and escalated it to claim. I have tried to contact him several time via pm, email, and text. All which he has ignored or refused to respond to.

Here are the pm's of the deal.

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Old 01-31-2013, 07:15 PM #2
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Add the pictures of the PMs you have sent to him. as always block out the personal information though.

Good move escalating the claim through PayPal. Make sure leave to him appropriate feedback.

Also send him a Pm with a link to this thread.
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:08 PM #3
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Add the pictures of the PMs you have sent to him. as always block out the personal information though.

Good move escalating the claim through PayPal. Make ire to him appropriate feedback.

Also send him a Pm with a link to this thread.
nevermind that was his other account.
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:01 PM #4
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I have dealt with him in person, never had a problem.

I will PM you.

Edit: Gave you info that i have. Hopefully it helps.

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Old 02-01-2013, 08:17 AM #5
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He was banned previously for feedback fraud. He posted an offer of $1000 on his own luxe from a 2nd account then left feedback between the two accounts pretending to trade a tank.

After this his account relooded was banned for point accumulation which he complained about from the same account he did the feedback fraud from. I am assuming JM noticed this and banned both account permanently for the fraud.

Definitely a user I would avoid; but finding him would not be hard. He seems to be very out in the open and well known at his field. Paypal will hopefully side with you. Leave negative feedback so people know to avoid him.

Won't be long before he ends up a BOS.
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Closed his BST threads and sent him a PM.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:18 AM #7
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I never posted in any of his threads. an with them all closed I can't post to leave feedback. Is another way to leave feedback?
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:45 PM #8
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You should be able to leave feedback from this thread now: http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3921314
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feedback left thanks for the help
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Old 02-04-2013, 07:07 PM #10
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Well I got the I4s today. But they are damaged.
Here the picture from his thread.



Here is what I got in the mail today.







The vents are cut. and the lenses are scratched so badly you cant hardly see.
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Dispute the hell outta that with PayPal.
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In case he changes the pic in his thread (Make sure to link both threads to PayPal):

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very clear the picture/description does not even come close to what you received. Dispute paypal fully and make sure he doesn't get a dime from you.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:32 AM #14
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He had a similar situation on his old account as well. He sold an like new Ego 11 but it was anything but like new according to the buyer.
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What are you talking about? Those i4s look brand new.

Keep us updated with what paypal says.
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In all fairness he said they were used 3 times after that picture lol

Good luck OP and mods isnt this considered scamming since technically he was lied to about the condition? Can he just be BOS since its a recurring thing?
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We don't ban simply because items are not in the condition described. If we did that, we'd be banning a lot of people. That's what the feedback system is for.
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True just thought with the repeatedness. Good point though. Well GL OP
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I'm with you. I'd like to bump a lot of the bad sellers/traders but a lot of it's opinion. The above situation is NOT an opinion though

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Currently Paypal is waiting for him to respond with his side of the claim.

Here a message he sent me today here on pbn. (I will post screen pic later)
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it cleary says it was used after that pic. I just got outa the hospital for cancer send me the masks back then and ill send you the momey back.. you'll thank my later for cutting the vent so you can breath easier.. ill get your account banned banned i got freiends that can do that if you dont either send me my masks back and ill give you your chump change change back or dekete my negative feedback
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Also do I need to send the mask back or does paypal determine that?
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Yo Kid:

It clearly says it was used after that picture was taken. I just got out of the hospital for cancer (I somehow highly doubt that). Send me the mask back and I will send your money back. (Don't do that, have him refund you first). You'll thank me later for cutting the vent so you can breath easier. I'll get your account banned, I have friends that can do that if: you don't send me my mask back and I will refund your money or delete my negative feedback.


Okay couple things... A) the mods will protect you from a negative feedback that is in retalition. B) I highly doubt the first thing a cancer patient cares about is some feedback based on a website. C) Do not send the mask back first. Let Paypal go through it's process of determination. D) You aren't going to get banned for bringing light to a situation lol. E) I have to be nice and not flame the relooded1 person

All of his accusations/threats/BS stories....you are fine, I HIGHLY doubt a mod will jump on and say: Oooh Banned cause uh...well cause!... Come on now.

Let paypal do its thing. Best case scenario...you send the mask back and they refund your money.
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