Yes, BOTH at the same time, I tape modded my new style flatline to accept my Apex 2 tip. And the amount of curve is INSANE!!! I call it the MonsterSpin system.
How about dive bomb shots at 60 FEET! Imagine having this on a speedball field, no one could hide in the snake, or behind bunkers, and you can adjust it easily for longer shots!
http://blip.tv/trailsofdoom/monster-...0-feet-6322495
And here is some "flat" shooting with both systems set for flat shots. If you have used a backspin system before, they create a "speed wobble" that you can see when the ball exits the barrel, well, by using BOTH systems at the same time, those wobbles go away and you get a more consistent shot. Pretty cool!
http://blip.tv/trailsofdoom/monsters...atline-6344614