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Old 05-14-2013, 04:30 AM #1
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G1 Air Leak Problem

After disassembling/reassembling my marker, I have a massive air leak coming from somewhere. It's difficult to pinpoint, but I think it's coming from the solenoid and not the bolt. I took everything apart again, double checked the o-rings, and made sure everything was properly connected and attached. The problem persists.

I'm not real technical, so if it is coming from the solenoid I'm afraid I wouldn't recognize it nor do I really know or understand how a solenoid works well enough to fix it. My big fear is that it's the regulator, but it doesn't seem to be coming from that part of the gun.

I absolutely have to have the gun by D-Day, so does anyone know the average turn-around time for sending it back to GOG? Average cost to do so?
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:44 AM #2
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see if you can connect the breach and frame by all the necessary components without the shell/shroud and attempt to pinpoint the leak. What is the extent of the leak, major/minor immediate or slowly growing? It may be as simple as the banjo o-ring on a barb is out, or the noid could be stuck open. The noid is actually a disk with a rubber plug in the center. This rubber plug opens and closes the valve for airflow to pass. My previous noid actually melted the housing around the noid from water exposure. Try these first before giving GOG a call, they have always been great over the phone and can get you a new noid/board altogether if you need. See you at dday man.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:03 PM #3
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see if you can connect the breach and frame by all the necessary components without the shell/shroud and attempt to pinpoint the leak. What is the extent of the leak, major/minor immediate or slowly growing? It may be as simple as the banjo o-ring on a barb is out, or the noid could be stuck open. The noid is actually a disk with a rubber plug in the center. This rubber plug opens and closes the valve for airflow to pass. My previous noid actually melted the housing around the noid from water exposure. Try these first before giving GOG a call, they have always been great over the phone and can get you a new noid/board altogether if you need. See you at dday man.
Major leak -- won't even fire...there is just a loud hissing from the air escaping.

I'm not exactly sure where the banjo fittings are. You're talking about the two round parts that connect the solenoid hoses to the board and where you screw the board into the breech, right? Those are on there pretty tight so I don't think that's the problem. Not sure where to find the rest of that either...Like I said, my technical expertise is pretty limited.

However, I did blow through what I think is the noid (the cylinder object with the long hose that connects to the board) and when I did so the air "rushed" through the banjo fitting (I think it's the banjo fitting) at the far end of the board. Not sure if that means anything or not. I've been meaning to upgrade to a blackheart board, so if I could be certain that the issue is with the board/solenoid then I'd just order a blackheart board and be done with it. I don't want to do that though unless I can be certain it isn't the regulator or some other issue.

So, you play for the K-State team? That's pretty cool -- we had a team for a couple of years back in the undergrad years, but I don't think they're around anymore unfortunately. What unit are you with? First time to D-Day?
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Old 05-14-2013, 10:26 PM #4
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Second time for me, playing for Germans. Ok so with everything connected to the breach/firing can but not the line that goes to the reg, you blew through the hose that was normally attached to the reg and air rushed out of the fitting at the far end of the breach/firing can? The banjo fitting is a "barb" like piece that has threads on it and a quick connect for the tubing on the other. The threads screw into the breach/firing can and the hoses connect to the solenoid. If air leaks from either of these "barbs" then they are easily replaced as the o-rings in them I believe are not replaceable. Test this theory. Connect the board noid and connecting hoses together and set aside. Essentially the entire "upper" half of the marker is assembled as it would be in the marker frame. There should be enough hosing to attach the barb and hose that goes to the reg left unconnected. Without completely assembling the marker, simply connect the unconnected hose to the reg slot where it normally goes. ( Best to do this and leave the two halves (upper with breach/firingcan, and lower with marker frame) laying flat on a table surface) Slowly engage air to the marker and attempt to locate the leak.
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