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Old 11-22-2013, 01:01 PM #1
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help on bob long marker

Hello, first of all sorry for the question, but here in my country only talks about planet eclipse and dye marker ... regarding bob long marker that is good value for money? such is the victory ripper? and finally they are so hard to adjust as they say?. Thank you for your attention.
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Old 11-22-2013, 01:05 PM #2
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You could try posting this same thread in the "Paintball Marker Manufacturers" area under the "Blast" section.

Those guys could definitely help you out.
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Old 11-22-2013, 01:08 PM #3
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Ok, thanks mcgridle.
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Old 11-22-2013, 04:55 PM #4
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You could try posting this same thread in the "Paintball Marker Manufacturers" area under the "Blast" section.

Those guys could definitely help you out.
He'd get a pretty biased opinion over there, though.
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Old 11-22-2013, 05:04 PM #5
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Old 11-23-2013, 04:20 AM #6
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Definitely e-mail Tim. He'll get you taken care of.

Bob Long markers are a bit more finicky than others but are DEFINITELY a great deal for the price.
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Old 11-23-2013, 04:30 AM #7
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Definitely e-mail Tim. He'll get you taken care of.

Bob Long markers are a bit more finicky than others but are DEFINITELY a great deal for the price.
I wouldn't say finicky, more so that they just require a little more maintenance. Since they have tighter tolerances it requires that you make sure it is lubed properly and check to orings more often, but it also makes it more consistent and efficient.
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Old 11-23-2013, 11:37 AM #8
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I wouldn't say finicky, more so that they just require a little more maintenance. Since they have tighter tolerances it requires that you make sure it is lubed properly and check to orings more often, but it also makes it more consistent and efficient.
I wouldn't even say that. Its just the ones with an LPR have a small range of pressure they work best in. The efficiency comes from veey good airpath desgin or or in the case of the Insight a very small valve open time.
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Old 11-24-2013, 11:28 AM #9
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They honestly can potentially shoot better than all of them simply because Bob doesn't restrict the adjustability ranges like many other manufacturers do. This allows a ton of fine tuning that can give you a really great shooting marker. The downside to this is you have to at least semi-educate yourself on what you are doing. Since there is a huge range of adjustability, you can end up getting your gun out of the appropriate settings if you aren't tuning them correctly. This often gives them the bad rep for being "finicky" which is false. If you take a small amount of time to learn about the marker and set it up properly, don't mess with it again, they will run forever just like any other high end. They can also often go very long intervals without much maintenance as long as the gun is set up correctly. They are not difficult to adjust, you just need to take some time to understand the operating ranges of the gun, use a pressure tester, and set them up appropriately. What people often do is don't familiarize themselves with the operating pressures the gun needs, don't purchase a pressure tester, and begin messing with the lpr and hpr to try to adjust them by feel. This works for an Eclipse gun which has a capped adjustment range, but won't work well at all on a Bob Long regulator which has a huge range of adjustment.

Eclipse gets a great reputation because they are just plain dummy proof. They make a great shooting marker and go through great lengths to protect the gun from the user. The only downside to this is you loose out slightly on adjustability (they have remedied this slightly with the solenoid flow restrictors). You are basically stuck with how Eclipse wanted the gun setup which is for many not a big deal. The upside is they will likely work regardless of the user.

I honestly appreciate the strengths of both Bob Long and Eclipse marker designs. I shot a G6R for 3 years and just recently went back to Eclipse with a Geo 3. I cannot tinker with the Geo 3 as much but on the flipside its maintenance/troubleshooting are so simple it makes up for it. They are really different brands for different people. If you don't want to change much on the marker and just want something that is simple, works, and shoots pretty damn good, go Eclipse. If you are a tinkerer at heart and want to squeeze as much performance as possible out of a marker or want the adjustability to set it up specifically to your needs, go with a Bob Long marker.

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They honestly can potentially shoot better than all of them simply because Bob doesn't restrict the adjustability ranges like many other manufacturers do. This allows a ton of fine tuning that can give you a really great shooting marker. The downside to this is you have to at least semi-educate yourself on what you are doing. Since there is a huge range of adjustability, you can end up getting your gun out of the appropriate settings if you aren't tuning them correctly. This often gives them the bad rep for being "finicky" which is false. If you take a small amount of time to learn about the marker and set it up properly, don't mess with it again, they will run forever just like any other high end. They can also often go very long intervals without much maintenance as long as the gun is set up correctly. They are not difficult to adjust, you just need to take some time to understand the operating ranges of the gun, use a pressure tester, and set them up appropriately. What people often do is don't familiarize themselves with the operating pressures the gun needs, don't purchase a pressure tester, and begin messing with the lpr and hpr to try to adjust them by feel. This works for an Eclipse gun which has a capped adjustment range, but won't work well at all on a Bob Long regulator which has a huge range of adjustment.

Eclipse gets a great reputation because they are just plain dummy proof. They make a great shooting marker and go through great lengths to protect the gun from the user. The only downside to this is you loose out slightly on adjustability (they have remedied this slightly with the solenoid flow restrictors). You are basically stuck with how Eclipse wanted the gun setup which is for many not a big deal. The upside is they will likely work regardless of the user.

I honestly appreciate the strengths of both Bob Long and Eclipse marker designs. I shot a G6R for 3 years and just recently went back to Eclipse with a Geo 3. I cannot tinker with the Geo 3 as much but on the flipside its maintenance/troubleshooting are so simple it makes up for it. They are really different brands for different people. If you don't want to change much on the marker and just want something that is simple, works, and shoots pretty damn good, go Eclipse. If you are a tinkerer at heart and want to squeeze as much performance as possible out of a marker or want the adjustability to set it up specifically to your needs, go with a Bob Long marker.

Well said. Very good advice
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