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Old 01-25-2013, 03:39 PM #22
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$45 for the best speed feed ever and a LIFETIME warrantee? Yes, yes it is worth it. It will be the last one you buy unless you get a new loader
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:40 PM #23
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:51 PM #24
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:09 PM #25
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true, you guys have brought up valid points. If it Never has to be replaced with money out of pocket it def becomes worth it.
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:15 PM #26
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$45 eh Ill pass.

I can buy 3 exalt ones but then again Ive never had to replace one.
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:19 PM #27
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So not really like anything else out there
Well... ALMOST not like anything else out there:
(from about 8 years ago)



Of course, the Virtue does have some benefits:
Doesn't weigh 9 oz.
Doesn't cost $250.
Doesn't add 2.5" to the top of your loader.

Think I'll be putting the virtue one on there next.
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:24 PM #28
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:14 PM #29
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I'm impressed by Virtue's new products.

I'm even more impressed that they're fans of The Hunns... or is that a U.S. Bombs riff?
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:18 PM #30
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thank god. was wondering if yall were ever gonna release this for the rotor.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:23 PM #31
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I'm impressed by Virtue's new products.

I'm even more impressed that they're fans of The Hunns... or is that a U.S. Bombs riff?
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:26 PM #32
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My question is why these over the exalt? I mean durability clearly however a hard finger sounds nice
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:26 PM #33
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Well... ALMOST not like anything else out there:
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Of course, the Virtue does have some benefits:
Doesn't weigh 9 oz.
Doesn't cost $250.
Doesn't add 2.5" to the top of your loader.

Think I'll be putting the virtue one on there next.
Oh boy... well ya got me there! Somewhere in between the $45 and $250 price point I think the cost to benefit ratio gets inverted

I wonder how stiff the springs had to be to hold up those fingers. I'd assume the weight of a ball wouldn't drop those fingers.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:28 PM #34
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In the first image, that is definitely not how you spell polycarbonate.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:45 PM #35
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In the first image, that is definitely not how you spell polycarbonate.
Lolololol thank you for pointing that out
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:47 PM #36
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My question is why these over the exalt? I mean durability clearly however a hard finger sounds nice
I see it as a "time value + performance" price trade off. We have lower dollar speed feeds too (lowest is 15, now most expensive is 45).

These do feed better. And they keep the paint in. Others feed on a range of "ok" to "good", but none of them keep the paint in like these.

So you pay more (upfront) for better feeding performance and less balls lost. (not even including the value of a warranty in this consideration)
Or
You use a cheaper one and get ok to good feeding performance, but lose a lot of balls during the course of using it.

I see some guys that lose 10-15 (or more) balls on every breakout or dive. Others are a little more careful and cover their hopper when they run or run with a nearly empty hopper so paint isn't flying everywhere.

My opinion is you don't just have to consider the value of the lost paint, but the fact that you lost that paint in the middle of a game where you might actually need it (you're either reloading sooner, or worse out of paint).

Random anecdote: when we were developing this before the Spire launched, all our test models were being used on Rotors. Mike won a limited paint 1 on 1 tournament using a Rotor and early prototype CrownSF. He won with something like 2 balls left in his hopper. That paint definitely would have been gone had he not had the SF. I think you could make a valid case that if he was running out sooner because of spilled paint he probably would have played differently (clearly you don't know "I shoot until my gun is empty Mike"), but even in that case you're changing your game to adapt to lost paint which could slow you down, change your shooting style, etc.

But at the end of the day it's certainly a cost that some people just don't want to pay. I think you can find some original speed feeds for 5 bucks

As if this post isn't long enough, I'll reminisce about a time 15 years ago (that long!?!?) when I put down my main gun and went out and just played in a team practice (10man) using a Model98. I shot 4 guys on the break, had a great time and remembered asking myself... "Why do I have a $1000 gun again?" Well, sometimes it matters. But in the end, use what works and gets the job done. I don't want to see anybody get any more broke than necessary feeding their addiction to paintball

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Old 01-25-2013, 05:51 PM #37
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In the first image, that is definitely not how you spell polycarbonate.
Well, that's cause we're using a blend of PC and that same material they froze Han Solo in....


But thanks for catching it. It's nice to find evidence now and then of someone reading the copy
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But thanks for catching it. It's nice to find evidence now and then of someone reading the copy
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:01 PM #39
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:08 PM #40
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man I might have to break down and get one of these. price does seem steep but I do understand why they would be more expensive. Glad it comes with a lifetime warranty since I have broken SEVERAL Proph speedfeeds at the hinge.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:28 PM #41
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One question for the z2, I noticed that when you were doing the video shake for the z2 you were gripping the whole lid. Did you guys actually reinforced the magnet on the lid it self? I think besides the other speedfeed itself being flimsy I also think the lid is also a big problem when it comes to loosing paint on a dive.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:41 PM #42
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One question for the z2, I noticed that when you were doing the video shake for the z2 you were gripping the whole lid. Did you guys actually reinforced the magnet on the lid it self? I think besides the other speedfeed itself being flimsy I also think the lid is also a big problem when it comes to loosing paint on a dive.
He is holding the lid, but with my experience with z2 seepdfeeds they will all pop open when that amount of force is used. And keep in mind that was an exaggerated amount of force to demonstrate a point.
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