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View Poll Results: Is Obama preparing to us the military on the American people?
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Absolutely, he has desired to do this for a while now
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I tend to think Obama would do this, but not sure he is pushing to do this now
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Not totally convinced that Obama would go this far. Maybe, but need more information
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I refuse to believe that Presient Obama would declare war on the American citizens
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01-28-2013, 10:20 PM
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#64
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BlackOps
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Shadows of Darkness
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Originally Posted by F1VENOM
Not at all, but where's your uproar and finger pointing about the previous administration that implemented the drones?
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I'm all for bad guys getting **** on from hellfire missiles.
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01-28-2013, 10:32 PM
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#65
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Socal
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Originally Posted by rT159
I'm all for bad guys getting **** on from hellfire missiles.
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I guess you didn't hear most people that are killed by them are children and civilians. How would you like it if pakistan used drone strikes against the "bad guys" in the US and you happened to be standing near one, getting blown up in the process? |
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01-28-2013, 10:43 PM
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It would suck but there is that whole association thing. Stats to substantiate the most and how many were human shields?
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01-28-2013, 10:45 PM
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#67
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Socal
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Originally Posted by F1VENOM
It would suck but there is that whole association thing. Stats to substantiate the most and how many were human shields?
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"According to the Pakistani authorities, 60 cross-border predator strikes in the period from January 2006 to April 2009 killed 14 wanted al-Qaeda leaders and 687 Pakistani civilians. In a 2009 opinion article, Daniel L. Byman of the Brookings Institution wrote that drone strikes may have killed "10 or so civilians" for every "mid- and high-ranking [al Qaeda and Taliban] leader."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_in_Pakistan |
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01-28-2013, 10:46 PM
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#68
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Whoa, it's almost like that was before Obama was in office.
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01-28-2013, 10:48 PM
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#69
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Socal
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Originally Posted by F1VENOM
Whoa, it's almost like that was before Obama was in office.
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http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...4#post77907354
Also more people were killed with drone strikes with obama as president than before he was. Look at the statistics table on the wiki page to see for yourself. |
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01-28-2013, 10:50 PM
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#70
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Numbers for the Obama administration.
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01-28-2013, 10:52 PM
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#71
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Socal
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298 under obama vs 52 under bush. 6 times as much in only half the time. At that rate, the amount of drone strikes under obama by the end of his 2nd term will be equivalent to the amount of drone strikes if bush was president for 96 years.
Last edited by Blake360 : 01-28-2013 at 10:55 PM.
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01-29-2013, 12:00 AM
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#72
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...bro
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no wonder why people want to kill us...
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01-29-2013, 12:02 AM
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asmuchtextastheywillallow
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Kansas City
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"making enemies faster than we can kill them"
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01-29-2013, 12:34 AM
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#74
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Seattle
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Originally Posted by Blake360
298 under obama vs 52 under bush. 6 times as much in only half the time. At that rate, the amount of drone strikes under obama by the end of his 2nd term will be equivalent to the amount of drone strikes if bush was president for 96 years.
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And what's wrong with this? Killing the enemy without putting our soldiers in danger is a good things. How about statistics for the number of civilians killed and not just people killed?
Granted, 25% civilian kill rate is pretty ****ing terrible. But I'm more interested in statistics between presidency.
Then again, I don't expect Obama to win this. At all. I just want to point out that your chart is pretty much useless. It definitely negates this post of yours:
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Originally Posted by Blake360
I guess you didn't hear most people that are killed by them are children and civilians. How would you like it if pakistan used drone strikes against the "bad guys" in the US and you happened to be standing near one, getting blown up in the process?
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01-29-2013, 12:42 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Socal
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Originally Posted by Treghc
And what's wrong with this? Killing the enemy without putting our soldiers in danger is a good things. How about statistics for the number of civilians killed and not just people killed?
Granted, 25% civilian kill rate is pretty ****ing terrible. But I'm more interested in statistics between presidency.
Then again, I don't expect Obama to win this. At all. I just want to point out that your chart is pretty much useless. It definitely negates this post of yours:
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I already answered that:
"According to the Pakistani authorities, 60 cross-border predator strikes in the period from January 2006 to April 2009 killed 14 wanted al-Qaeda leaders and 687 Pakistani civilians. In a 2009 opinion article, Daniel L. Byman of the Brookings Institution wrote that drone strikes may have killed "10 or so civilians" for every "mid- and high-ranking [al Qaeda and Taliban] leader."
And given that the drone strikes intensified after 2009, it would be foolish to think the civilian death rate would have dropped since then. |
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01-29-2013, 12:50 AM
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M-M-M-Monster Kill!!!
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Yucaipa, CA
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All in all, less Obama, more 'men behind the curtain'. Stop buying into the bipartisan facade.
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01-29-2013, 12:50 AM
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ONE NATION UNDER GOD!!!
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Dixieland
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Killing 176 kids isn't very presidential if you ask me.
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They want to know how the IRS became a political arm of the White House during a heated re-election campaign and they want to know their first amendment rights to freedom of the press are still intact.” - Rep Doug Collins
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01-29-2013, 12:58 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Socal
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Originally Posted by $h@key J0nEZ
Killing 176 kids isn't very presidential if you ask me.
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Especially when he forgets to cry about it on TV. |
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01-29-2013, 01:50 AM
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ONE NATION UNDER GOD!!!
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Dixieland
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Originally Posted by Blake360
Especially when he forgets to cry about it on TV.
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He'll probably win another Nobel Peace Prize for all his "humanitarian work" in Pakistan.
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They want to know how the IRS became a political arm of the White House during a heated re-election campaign and they want to know their first amendment rights to freedom of the press are still intact.” - Rep Doug Collins
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01-29-2013, 01:53 AM
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R.I.P America.
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Originally Posted by $h@key J0nEZ
He'll probably win another Nobel Peace Prize for all his "humanitarian work" in Pakistan.
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