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Old 08-21-2013, 12:47 PM #43
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You're also expected to marry young and make it work, if you're not married as a woman by 21 you're considered a spinster and they have entire wards devoted to 18-30 singles for the express purpose of shacking up and squirting out new member.
I appreciate the fact that their culture has standards and enforces them.

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It's a smokescreen for keeping women out of power.
They have good sense enough to understand biological predisposition as well as the time tested value of patriarchy. Im a monster, I know.
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:49 PM #44
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It works for them, but of course it leads to a lot of debauchery and unhappiness behind closed doors which I didn't expect. The happiness is largely a charade to keep up with the Jones's but they really are super nice people. There's a lot of forced indoctrination and it's very cult-ish, though I think that's too derogatory a word.

Keep in mind I'm talking broadly.
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:53 PM #45
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My atheist as **** grandparents stayed together for the kids. Lots of unhappiness, but they knew their duty was to give their children a stable home with both parents. Plus its largely their fault they never even attempted to work on their problems.
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:55 PM #46
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My atheist as **** grandparents stayed together for the kids. Lots of unhappiness, but they knew their duty was to give their children a stable home with both parents. Plus its largely their fault they never even attempted to work on their problems.
I can applaud that so long as they're able to keep the wheels on the bus.
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Old 08-21-2013, 01:02 PM #47
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They did.
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Old 08-21-2013, 01:38 PM #48
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Here is a question for you, Mormon:

Are you happy?
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Old 08-21-2013, 02:42 PM #49
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The same reason people without a temple recommend aren't allowed in the temple after its dedicated; or why almost anybody isn't allowed in certain parts of temples. They are extremely sacred, parading them around would be disrespectful and sacrilegious.
Come on, that's a cop-out. If I said that I have physical proof (gold plates, etc.) that Zeus was real, wouldn't everyone be justified in demanding to see that proof?

Seriously, by not allowing "outsiders" to see the gold plates, you might as well be saying "nah nee nah nee poo poo."

And if not "parade them around," then perhaps respectfully display behind glass in a museum.
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Old 08-21-2013, 02:50 PM #50
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You couldn't read them without the seer stones.
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:05 PM #51
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Or they can treat them however they wish, and store them in the manner they please without capitulation to atheist polemics.

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Old 08-21-2013, 04:02 PM #52
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Come on, that's a cop-out. If I said that I have physical proof (gold plates, etc.) that Zeus was real, wouldn't everyone be justified in demanding to see that proof?

Seriously, by not allowing "outsiders" to see the gold plates, you might as well be saying "nah nee nah nee poo poo."

And if not "parade them around," then perhaps respectfully display behind glass in a museum.
If you read the beginning of the Book of Mormon, that is the purpose of the Three Witnesses and Eight Witnesses.

2 Corinthians 13:1 .....In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
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Come on, that's a cop-out. If I said that I have physical proof (gold plates, etc.) that Zeus was real, wouldn't everyone be justified in demanding to see that proof?

Seriously, by not allowing "outsiders" to see the gold plates, you might as well be saying "nah nee nah nee poo poo."

And if not "parade them around," then perhaps respectfully display behind glass in a museum.
You were forbidden from looking at the covenant.
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:16 AM #54
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You were forbidden from looking at the covenant.
That's another cop-out. It amazes me that people actually accept this. "We have proof of god's greatness... right here! But you can't see it because you are unworthy."
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:20 AM #55
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Or they can treat them however they wish, and store them in the manner they please without capitulation to atheist polemics.
The Mormans are the ones making the claim that the plates are real. If they want others to believe them, then they bear the burden of proof.
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:32 AM #56
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Old 08-22-2013, 02:27 PM #57
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That's another cop-out. It amazes me that people actually accept this. "We have proof of god's greatness... right here! But you can't see it because you are unworthy."
Fort Knox?
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:50 PM #58
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You're also expected to marry young and make it work, if you're not married as a woman by 21 you're considered a spinster and they have entire wards devoted to 18-30 singles for the express purpose of shacking up and squirting out new member.
I'm sorry, upon what facts have you based this?
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:50 PM #59
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I'm sorry, upon what facts have you based this?
Personal experience.
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Old 08-23-2013, 10:52 AM #60
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Fort Knox?
I'm reasonably certain there is no gold nor silver in Fort Knox. I'd sure like to see an audit if there is.
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Old 09-28-2013, 10:42 PM #61
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The angel Moroni took the plates back. The church doesn't have them.
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Old 12-09-2013, 11:41 PM #63
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Have you ever read the history of your church or the biography of Joseph Smith? Seriously you should step outside your bubble and learn something other than faith promoting propaganda.

At least they finally repealed all the debates, revelations, and ignorance on racism.
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