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Old 04-03-2013, 04:57 PM #1
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Players of the same college system.

So its has been a month since I emailed the ncpa and still have not received a response. I also contacted Joe , who is director of NEIC and he did not reply although it was through Facebook and not official channels. I thought I would post here to see if I could get my question answered.

As for as I know the only functional club for paintball for the entire UMass system is here in Amherst. Dartmouth , Lowell , Boston , Worcester all do not have a club running , and I have had failed attempts trying to contact people to get info on previous clubs that existed at Dartmouth and Lowell.

I have been approached by a couple players who are not in UMass Amherst and would still like to play for the team in tournaments. My primary question is if they are allowed to do so.

Rule book says :

2.2.1.1. Different campuses in the same university system are considered separate schools,
unless :
2.2.1.1.1. Degrees awarded to students attending either campus are identical, and
2.2.1.1.2. Students applying to the school apply through the same admissions process
for both campuses, and
2.2.1.1.3. Students at both campuses pay the same tuition, and
2.2.1.1.4. Enrolled students can register for classes at either campus at-will

As far as I know both points 1 and 4 are correct. I do not think that the admissions process is the same although I may be wrong. And as far as I know other UMass schools have slightly lower tuition because of their size.

I was wondering if I could get a clear answer on if they would be legible to play or not. As far as I am concerned I do not see why they cannot if their school ( of way smaller size) does not have a current club going or is dead.

For those that say to start one at their school , I believe the recreational group process there is alot harder if not impossible to manage. It was hard enough starting the club here as well as getting funding that I do not see the purpose for 1 player to putting all the effort to start a club that may or may not stay because of lack of support from school / funding issues. We have everything available and ready to provide.
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Old 04-03-2013, 06:23 PM #2
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since you can transit campuses to take classes you should be able to taake from that campuses player pool. We temple have a similar campus structure, but our student rec is all done through our main campus on north broad st.
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Old 04-03-2013, 07:58 PM #3
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You can do what we did and utilize the pick-up team option. We had players from 3 different schools playing together on the same team. As long as theyre all full time, I dont think it matters what school they go to.
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:07 AM #4
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however. pick up teams cannot earn series points... which really doesnt matter unless you play every event, but its still something to think about
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:35 PM #5
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I kinda just wanted to get an official word but i think we will be okay
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You can do what we did and utilize the pick-up team option. We had players from 3 different schools playing together on the same team. As long as theyre all full time, I dont think it matters what school they go to.
This is generally not how pick up players work. Hopefully you got that cleared before rolling with it


2.2.1. Players may sign up as a team of players on one roster or, for Class AA and High School
play only, individually on a Pick-Up team.
2.2.1.1. All players on a team roster must be eligible players enrolled at the same school.
2.2.1.1.1. Team rosters must include a minimum of 4 players from the same school.
If a team has less than 5 players, the team may request a pick-up player be added to their
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Old 04-05-2013, 01:22 PM #7
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To be completely honest is one player is the deciding factor between playing an event and not playing an event , I don't see why the NCPA would have a problem with it.
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Old 04-11-2013, 01:45 PM #8
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To be completely honest is one player is the deciding factor between playing an event and not playing an event , I don't see why the NCPA would have a problem with it.
Because then everyone says that they are just one player short of playing or not playing an event, and we have a bunch of teams that are not actually college teams.

The NCPA exists to host competitions between different colleges. That's not the same as competitions between teams of players who take college classes.

That may seem like an immaterial distinction, but many of our teams are funded based on the fact they are competing in intercollegiate competition, and failure to maintain that standard puts everyone's funding at risk.


It's also not an unreasonable burden to expect that college teams put forth the effort to promote paintball on their campus so that they can find and field 5 players out of thousands of students.


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Old 04-11-2013, 05:37 PM #9
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Because then everyone says that they are just one player short of playing or not playing an event, and we have a bunch of teams that are not actually college teams.

The NCPA exists to host competitions between different colleges. That's not the same as competitions between teams of players who take college classes.

That may seem like an immaterial distinction, but many of our teams are funded based on the fact they are competing in intercollegiate competition, and failure to maintain that standard puts everyone's funding at risk.


It's also not an unreasonable burden to expect that college teams put forth the effort to promote paintball on their campus so that they can find and field 5 players out of thousands of students.


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understandable. I still would like a confirmation of weather or not he will be able to play with us. Joe has emailed me back so I will be waiting for a reply from him
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