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Old 01-20-2013, 02:11 PM #1
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What is next in paintball technology?

So I hear everyone saying that the paintball industry has hit a plateau in technology whether it be marker design, paintballs, masks, ect..

I am rather new to the paintball scene, but I can see how this can be true.

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However, what else is there to improve? What else do people want to be done as far as technology goes?

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My Opinion: Paintball technology does not seem to be lacking, and rather than try to make "better" markers the industry should focus on finding ways to make paintball cheaper to play.

If the industry could focus on reducing the cost of markers, equipment, and paintballs then it would allow more players to enter the game, bring old players back, and grow the industry as a whole.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:18 PM #2
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SplatMasters are the next big thing in paintball.

Before the rash of nastiness, think about it. SplatMasters can get new players into the sport on a tiny budget. The paint is pretty reasonably priced, especially at the lower rate of fire. The Z100 and Z200 guns are just the opening round probably, just like the original SplatMaster and NelSpot 007 were the first of the .68 caliber paintball guns. They run without a compressed gas propellant to worry about, and there's no arguments about ramping/firing modes or velocities.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:23 PM #3
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So I hear everyone saying that the paintball industry has hit a plateau in technology whether it be marker design, paintballs, masks, ect..

I am rather new to the paintball scene, but I can see how this can be true.

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However, what else is there to improve? What else do people want to be done as far as technology goes?

Discuss....


My Opinion: Paintball technology does not seem to be lacking, and rather than try to make "better" markers the industry should focus on finding ways to make paintball cheaper to play.

If the industry could focus on reducing the cost of markers, equipment, and paintballs then it would allow more players to enter the game, bring old players back, and grow the industry as a whole.
Are you kidding? Compared to when I started, it is dirt cheap to get a high quality marker.

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SplatMasters are the next big thing in paintball.

Before the rash of nastiness, think about it. SplatMasters can get new players into the sport on a tiny budget. The paint is pretty reasonably priced, especially at the lower rate of fire. The Z100 and Z200 guns are just the opening round probably, just like the original SplatMaster and NelSpot 007 were the first of the .68 caliber paintball guns. They run without a compressed gas propellant to worry about, and there's no arguments about ramping/firing modes or velocities.
What are the velocities on the splatmasters?

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Old 01-20-2013, 03:03 PM #4
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The Z100/200 get about 120fps. Perfect for an 8-10 year old to get their feet wet in paintball without coming home, or in from the back yard, with a bunch of welts.
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:44 PM #5
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If the industry could focus on reducing the cost of markers, equipment, and paintballs then it would allow more players to enter the game, bring old players back, and grow the industry as a whole.


people need to feel secure with their financial situation before they are going to splurge on luxuries like paintball. that is the biggest thing that needs to happen. paintball is about as cheap as it has ever been.

i think one of the next big things in paintball is going to be is Magfed taking over for a lot of the scenario players if it hasn't already.
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:45 PM #6
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i think one of the next big things in paintball is going to be is Magfed taking over for a lot of the scenario players if it hasn't already.
Not gonna happen, scenario players put tourney players to shame when it comes to the amount of paint they shoot.
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Are you kidding? Compared to when I started, it is dirt cheap to get a high quality marker.
Sure it is, but that's no reason why it can't get cheaper. If a company focuses it's time and energy on that it will happen. There is plenty of room for paint to become much cheaper as well as markers and equipment.

If the company can lower their costs to produce and then lower the cost to the consumer they make the same money per sale, but they gain more customers/sales and make more money.

#1 reason why people I know who did play paintball or just play occasionally is because it is a very expensive sport. More expensive than any other that I know. I know people who play airsoft just because it is cheaper and would rather be playing paintball.
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:27 PM #8
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#1 reason why people I know who did play paintball or just play occasionally is because it is a very expensive sport. More expensive than any other that I know. I know people who play airsoft just because it is cheaper and would rather be playing paintball.
Paintball can be very cheap to play, just the culture has made the game more expensive than it needs to be.

You can get an entire starter package, gun, mask, hopper, and tank, for about $80. Brand new. Of course you start asking around some players won't give you the time of day if you haven't spent over $400.

Going with a quick sampling of local field prices, a day at the field costs $35. Entry, all day air/CO2, and 500 balls. Ask around and way too many players think you need a full case just to play, if not multiple cases.

You could play once a month at 500 balls an outing with a basic blowback for an entire year and not spend over $500 in total. Too bad not enough players consider that "real" paintball.
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:44 PM #9
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Sure it is, but that's no reason why it can't get cheaper. If a company focuses it's time and energy on that it will happen. There is plenty of room for paint to become much cheaper as well as markers and equipment.

If the company can lower their costs to produce and then lower the cost to the consumer they make the same money per sale, but they gain more customers/sales and make more money.

#1 reason why people I know who did play paintball or just play occasionally is because it is a very expensive sport. More expensive than any other that I know. I know people who play airsoft just because it is cheaper and would rather be playing paintball.
Um... it actually takes quite a bit of money to design and machine a paintball gun.
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:29 AM #10
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So there is nothing special that is being anticipated by the community then?

And yes it does take quite a bit of money to design a paintball gun, but as with all things that are not hand made there is an initial high cost to launch and the longer you have the product the lower the cost is to produce it.
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:55 AM #11
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We're kind of in a time of refinement rather than outright revolutions. Companies aren't seeing people calling for anything in particular, at least nothing that's going to still make them money. More efficiency, smoother shots, lighter weight? We've got all that. Guns today are probably a touch TOO light. Efficiency is over a case on a 68/4500 fill on many guns. Smoothness is right up there, too, with guns barely moving as they cycle. With what we have to work with (68 caliber balls at 300fps), we're probably at a point where there's not too much more to improve. Details are going to adjust, accessories will change, but the functional part of the sport is probably as good as it's going to be.

Will there be a huge quantum leap in what we use or how we play? Probably, but it's not going to come from the tournament/speedball side of the game.
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:25 PM #12
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We've pretty much boiled paintball down to a science and I don't see much more progress. If players didn't protect their favorite companies from each other and instead let capitalism play out we might see cheaper markers.

In theory, there should be a bunch of low to mid end markers with every company competing for who can give you the most features for the lowest cost and a few luxury guns that hardly anyone buys. Instead we have a ton of luxury guns and only a few cheaper models, many of which make better paper weights than paintball guns.
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Marker manufacturers could stand to learn a thing or two from auto manufacturers. If Ford had been taking it's marketing cues from the Planet Eclipse School of Business Development, the bluetooth audio alone would jack a Ford Fiesta up to about $75,000.
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#1 reason why people I know who did play paintball or just play occasionally is because it is a very expensive sport. More expensive than any other that I know. I know people who play airsoft just because it is cheaper and would rather be playing paintball.
Sure paintball is expensive, but like Fubarius said it's not as bad as you're making it seem. If you're thrifty enough it's easy to get a good price on old, pro setups. (although I do wish paint was cheaper)Also I played airsoft a few years back and I find paintball much better cost wise purely because of marker durability. You see markers lasting for 10+ yrs sometimes while an airsoft gun could die after six months . Finally look at snowboarding, skiing, and many other extreme sports. Like in paintball, you can still go down the same slopes with a crap board versus a brand new $2000 board. Only difference would be quality.
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Honestly the next part to paintball is making the fields a lot better. Such as playing at a school or office building like a swat mission. Thats wat is next for the sport
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Honestly the next part to paintball is making the fields a lot better. Such as playing at a school or office building like a swat mission. Thats wat is next for the sport
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paintball fields that look like schools = NOT whats next for paintball.
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paintball fields that look like schools = NOT whats next for paintball.
Could get the sport banned for good Although a mixup of fields could be cool, I hope we stay away from controversy
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but making a paintball field day for a high school on there football field would be cool.
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paintball fields that look like schools = NOT whats next for paintball.
lol so true.
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Old 01-23-2013, 07:49 AM #20
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SplatMasters are the next big thing in paintball.

Before the rash of nastiness, think about it. SplatMasters can get new players into the sport on a tiny budget. The paint is pretty reasonably priced, especially at the lower rate of fire. The Z100 and Z200 guns are just the opening round probably, just like the original SplatMaster and NelSpot 007 were the first of the .68 caliber paintball guns. They run without a compressed gas propellant to worry about, and there's no arguments about ramping/firing modes or velocities.
Didn't the sport try to get the younger crowd involved before? Why is it Paintball is on this push to get kids into the game when for the first 20 years of it's existence it was mainly an adult played game? I have to argue that in those 20 years Paintball grew more then before they changed tactics and started advertising the game as an "extreme sport" trying to get kids to play. I mean advertising to a demographic that can't afford it seems silly.

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We've pretty much boiled paintball down to a science and I don't see much more progress. If players didn't protect their favorite companies from each other and instead let capitalism play out we might see cheaper markers.
I agree completely, The players have really let Paintball down. They fail to realize that that they are the ones in charge and that they vote with their dollars. As a result of their passiveness they Let the likes of Tom Kaye, Fred Schultz, and Budd Orr slip away from Paintball. People whom really cared about our great game.
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you can get a marker that does everything the hi end guns have for like 250. (lower quality ). but when i started playing like 14 years ago thats what you would pay for a piranha
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