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Old 01-20-2013, 12:24 AM #211
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You honestly can't get better than the +/- 1-2 consistency and accuracy of ultra evil. I mean it's what a majority of winners shoot.
well the +/- 1-2 is a little far fetched and there is no paint - gun - barrel - tank or any combination that will ever do that ! 5-8 maybe ! now as for the majority of winners, well could it be that's because that's what they mainly sell at the PSP and kee sponsors many of the top teams anyway, so until there is a BYOP series no paint company should say there paint is the best. it would be like valken saying that there paint won every NPPL event !
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:38 AM #213
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How do they expect paintball to grow, when the two largest leagues are acting like idiots?
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You are such a scrub. You have never done anything noteworthy in paintball. All you do is bash AZPPL , contact, and talk about how hard law school is to let everyone know you are a law student. The new teams in NPPL are easily D2-D1. But keep slinging mud like a choade in a thread where the topic is Valken and PSP.

FYI I don't support NPPL, Contact, or Valken. I just think you are a dbag.
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Let me restate my point. The NPPL is on the ropes and "unproven" pro teams being offered pro spots is a symptom of the circumstances.

The AZPPL needed some changes, and it seems like it may be heading in the right direction. But that's neither here nor there. Troll rate: 2/10.

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Old 01-20-2013, 01:44 AM #215
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:45 AM #216
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I don't think a tournament league like the PSP gives two ****s about giant scenario events.

I'll tell you why they should. This is all because the people who own the psp don't want their paint business challenged, but it gives valken extra incentive to muscle them out of the rec/scenario paint market where most of the $$$ is made... So maybe the psp should give a few ****s.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:55 AM #217
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I'll tell you why they should. This is all because the people who own the psp don't want their paint business challenged, but it gives valken extra incentive to muscle them out of the rec/scenario paint market where most of the $$$ is made... So maybe the psp should give a few ****s.
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And to add to that, ask any field owner where they make most of their $$ and 99% will tell you it's not from speedball it's from rec/scenario paint sales

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Old 01-20-2013, 02:41 AM #218
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a sport's viability predicated on sponsoring teams for paint...that's the bad business part.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:52 AM #219
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I'll tell you why they should. This is all because the people who own the psp don't want their paint business challenged, but it gives valken extra incentive to muscle them out of the rec/scenario paint market where most of the $$$ is made... So maybe the psp should give a few ****s.
Do you really think that Valken is going to take a relatively minor slight and blow it so out of proportion that they are going to undercut their competitors by such a large margin as to muscle them completely out of the market? Yeah, okay. I'm glad we're all being realistic.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:27 AM #221
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I have a question, might seem a little overly simple......rather a statement......

what kind of industry has heads of company's posting the internal functions and discussions between entities from within its own industry for public scrutiny through facebook?

has anyone stopped to think that this entire article is nothing more than hearsay and conjecture?

News should have validated sources, from both sides of the article, not 1 side saying this is what happened. If we ever want to evolve as an industry and "sport", this crap has to end....
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:34 AM #222
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Meh keep Valken out of the PSP, every time I have shot their paint it has been garbage. From Their Field Paint to Redemption and even Redemption Pro. While the Pro shoots straight it still doesnt break all that often.

Sad part is alot of the fields out here have switched over to it because they are making it so cheap for field owners.
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I have a question, might seem a little overly simple......rather a statement......

what kind of industry has heads of company's posting the internal functions and discussions between entities from within its own industry for public scrutiny through facebook?

has anyone stopped to think that this entire article is nothing more than hearsay and conjecture?

News should have validated sources, from both sides of the article, not 1 side saying this is what happened. If we ever want to evolve as an industry and "sport", this crap has to end....
But drama is what attracts people and gets them to shovel cash for other people's uneducated and "staged" opinions.
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Definitley a possibility. The news uses this tactic to sway public opinion.celebrities do it to generate viewership.even fortune 50 companies do it through memos, saying stuff like " our main competitor this, main competitor that" just to cause an xfactor in their employees , all of a sudden their morale boosts and they work harder and form a more subconscience allegiance to their company, resulting in more prideful work and ethic.the most obvious is the news though.my God if that ain't social engineering at its finest!
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Definitley a possibility. The news uses this tactic to sway public opinion.celebrities do it to generate viewership.even fortune 50 companies do it through memos, saying stuff like " our main competitor this, main competitor that" just to cause an xfactor in their employees , all of a sudden their morale boosts and they work harder and form a more subconscience allegiance to their company, resulting in more prideful work and ethic.the most obvious is the news though.my God if that ain't social engineering at its finest!
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Dear PSP. You can have your GI and KEE paint. I don't play your horrible events, nor do i play NPPL events. Infact i couldnt care about league games at all. But hear this. You want to bully a company that probably has more wealth than you're league that you partly own.. Be my guest. But I will laugh my *** off when you get shut out of the scenario events like living legends, Dday, and every other scenario / local tourny(outside of the leagues), and every rec field out there that comes along and offers fields a cheaper rate to switch over to valken paint. Which would result you into basically selling almost no where. I will support Valken paint more often, I do like 3 and 4 star GI paint. But i also love redemption paint here in Canada. It's a lot more consistent than GI/KEE paint.

To the people who think it's going to hurt valken. Think twice. Valken has many, many other businesses, sponsors in other sports all over the globe, and paintball is just a "side" part of Valken. A Hydroplane race of valken probably costs more to do the race than the PSP makes in a year.

PSP, you're digging yourself a grave this year. Last year it was the photography rights. Now this? And they say the NPPL is dying?
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:16 AM #228
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^ Please dont be as easily excited as the OP. Its just a business deal, who's fairness of terms is to be determined only by those involved. Both companies are guilty of bullying each other so lets give that a rest.
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Dear PSP. You can have your GI and KEE paint. I don't play your horrible events, nor do i play NPPL events. Infact i couldnt care about league games at all. But hear this. You want to bully a company that probably has more wealth than you're league that you partly own.. Be my guest. But I will laugh my *** off when you get shut out of the scenario events like living legends, Dday, and every other scenario / local tourny(outside of the leagues), and every rec field out there that comes along and offers fields a cheaper rate to switch over to valken paint. Which would result you into basically selling almost no where. I will support Valken paint more often, I do like 3 and 4 star GI paint. But i also love redemption paint here in Canada. It's a lot more consistent than GI/KEE paint.

To the people who think it's going to hurt valken. Think twice. Valken has many, many other businesses, sponsors in other sports all over the globe, and paintball is just a "side" part of Valken. A Hydroplane race of valken probably costs more to do the race than the PSP makes in a year.

PSP, you're digging yourself a grave this year. Last year it was the photography rights. Now this? And they say the NPPL is dying?


Such an obvious Valken fanboy. Do you really think Gino is richer than Kee/Dye combined? Please. The scenario/rec market will make or break the paintball business? Shall I post my Chuck Taylor laughing gif again?

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Such an obvious Valken fanboy. Do you really think Gino is richer than Kee/Dye combined? Please. The scenario/rec market will make or break the paintball business? Shall I post my Chuck Taylor laughing gif again?
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Dear PSP. You can have your GI and KEE paint. I don't play your horrible events, nor do i play NPPL events. Infact i couldnt care about league games at all. But hear this. You want to bully a company that probably has more wealth than you're league that you partly own.. Be my guest. But I will laugh my *** off when you get shut out of the scenario events like living legends, Dday, and every other scenario / local tourny(outside of the leagues), and every rec field out there that comes along and offers fields a cheaper rate to switch over to valken paint. Which would result you into basically selling almost no where. I will support Valken paint more often, I do like 3 and 4 star GI paint. But i also love redemption paint here in Canada. It's a lot more consistent than GI/KEE paint.

To the people who think it's going to hurt valken. Think twice. Valken has many, many other businesses, sponsors in other sports all over the globe, and paintball is just a "side" part of Valken. A Hydroplane race of valken probably costs more to do the race than the PSP makes in a year.

PSP, you're digging yourself a grave this year. Last year it was the photography rights. Now this? And they say the NPPL is dying?
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