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Old 11-14-2013, 10:07 AM #1
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Late to the Party "Victory V1"

Here's the story. Recently back into paintball last couple years so I missed the early Bob Long markers. Since my return i have tried G6R, Vice, Alias. Next on my radar is a Victory V1.

I know about the Vcom engine as an upgrade, but not the original Proficiency Engine which is what the one I am considering has.

So here's my questions.....
Are there problems with the PE engine? Seems I heard the shaft breaks or something like that.
How can I upgrade to a SC engine? Is the SC engine an upgrade kit or complete engine and where do I buy it?

Again I know about the VCOM engine and will probably get one, but weighing my options as to cost of SC and benefits.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 11-14-2013, 11:36 AM #2
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For the V1 Vics, it will depend on the marker but most came with the SC engine. I believe the early ones produced came with the PE engine. The problem people were having early on with the PE engine is that the ram tip - where it connects to the QD bolt head - would break off. The fix was a beefier ram at that point along with some other tweeks to make the SC engine. Other than the less efficient (compared to the SC) and ram breakage issue, there isn't really any other problem with the PE engine.

Now, to upgrade to the SC, there are a couple of ways. Since the Vics came with at least the PE engine, you can get just a SC kit that will come with the bolt, ram, blast guide, and the brown donut. I think BLAST still have kits for sale. The SC kit still uses the backcap assembly and can from the PE engine. If, for whatever reason, you do not have a PE engine (like in the older Marqs for example), you would need to buy the whole SC engine. Since you are looking at Vics, this shouldn't be an issue. You'll find that you won't need anything because it is already SCed or, worst case, you will need to get the SC kit.
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Old 11-14-2013, 11:52 AM #3
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Thank you Technonic.

You answered my question exactly! I will look at Blast now.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:38 PM #4
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I would say you can find some cheap SC engines on here. Many users have changed to the spool engine (VCOM) and thier SC engine just sits.

Also, It is VERY rare to find a victory that does not have the SC kit. Easy way to tell is the color of the blast guide. Red = SC, Black = PE
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Old 11-14-2013, 01:05 PM #5
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I would say you can find some cheap SC engines on here. Many users have changed to the spool engine (VCOM) and thier SC engine just sits.

Also, It is VERY rare to find a victory that does not have the SC kit. Easy way to tell is the color of the blast guide. Red = SC, Black = PE
Yeah I know most where upgraded. My friend has one that was not. So I am bringing that into the consideration.
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:22 PM #6
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Also upgrading from the PE to the SC you need to send it in to have an Exhaust hole drilled into the back half of the engine.
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:39 PM #7
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Also upgrading from the PE to the SC you need to send it in to have an Exhaust hole drilled into the back half of the engine.
So it isn't a drop in upgrade? I need to send it to BLAST?
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:15 PM #8
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So it isn't a drop in upgrade? I need to send it to BLAST?
if you buy the whole SC engine used then yes it's just a drop in upgrade.
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With the new VIS popet engine out you can probably find a SC engine pretty cheap.
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:23 PM #10
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if you buy the whole SC engine used then yes it's just a drop in upgrade.
I really am asking if the kit is a drop in upgrade to the existing Proficiency Engine. From what people are saying here and in the original supercharge thread it appears a hole needs to be drilled?

I guess I could ship to Blast, but are they still doing it. I have the kit and PE engine already so curious.
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So it isn't a drop in upgrade? I need to send it to BLAST?
If you are buying a New Kit then you need to send it in. The kit only includes the New Ram, Red Guide, Brown Donut and Bolt. It does not include the housing.

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if you buy the whole SC engine used then yes it's just a drop in upgrade.
If you buy the Whole Engine New (Housing included), then you Do Not need to send it in. This would be a drop in kit.

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I really am asking if the kit is a drop in upgrade to the existing Proficiency Engine. From what people are saying here and in the original supercharge thread it appears a hole needs to be drilled?

I guess I could ship to Blast, but are they still doing it. I have the kit and PE engine already so curious.
Hope that cleared it up for you.

RaymiusII is correct with the Vcom and the New VIS Engine, you can get either the New-er SC Engine or maybe a VCom Engine from the guys that just want the one engine or the other
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Kit and will need to send it in. Never done before for any marker I have owned, but this is staying so....... USPS to the rescue. Haha
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