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Old 01-05-2013, 05:17 PM #1
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Geo 2 Drop Off. @#$%**help**@#$%

I decided i was going to use my geo 2 today. I got it back from paintball central yesterday. All they did was replace my propshaft and assembly. I was shooting it yesterday when i received it and it worked fine.

I went to chrono it today and shot fine until i started walking the trigger. The velocity drops off horribly. Before you say change battery or anything like that; I replaced battery with Duracell Procell, lubed reg and bolt, cleaned ball and screen in solenoid, reset to stock settings, EVERYTHING.
I am currently changing all the orings on bolt to see if that is issue. Hopefully one of you guys can help out.

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A few guys were saying it was a geo 1 can and propshaft in my gun, not the geo 2 internals. I will upload pics if you think this is possible but i know for a fact it's geo 2 internals. Only upgrade is virtue laser eyes.
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:50 AM #2
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Hey ,
what about the regulator seal ? Is it very used ? Try to turn around or replace it , when maintaining the reg
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Old 01-06-2013, 03:45 PM #3
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Drop off is usually caused from a tank issue or supply of pressure to reg.
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Old 01-06-2013, 05:19 PM #4
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It now wont even shoot. Air is passing through the bolt, but not pushing thebolt forward. I didnt see anything wrong with the reg seal or the reg seat. Off to Rhode Island she goes
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Old 01-06-2013, 05:59 PM #5
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Are you sure you used the correct orings when replacing them?

Why don't you bring it back to PBC? It sounds like they might have messed it up.
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:26 PM #6
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Are you sure you used the correct orings when replacing them?

Why don't you bring it back to PBC? It sounds like they might have messed it up.

i have to ship and its a huge PITA. The orings look correct and i will redo them but he said he chronod it.
I just went and cleaned the noid. THAT **** WAS DIRTY. i have air here so im gunna put it back together and see what happens.
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Old 01-06-2013, 07:49 PM #7
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While cleaning the noid did you by chance wipe down the red ball inside the solenoid? If that gets gunked up with excess lube it will stick and cause the problem you are experiencing.
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Change both the 14x2 orings, one on the prop and the other on the bolt. Surely thats where your problem is.
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Old 01-06-2013, 08:22 PM #9
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Solved the issue; Well sorta. Still drops off and ive tried 3 differnet tanks. I will change o ring for reg.
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Old 01-06-2013, 08:27 PM #10
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I thought the orings sounded wrong when it started leaking. Check the ball like mentioned above too.
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Old 01-06-2013, 08:29 PM #11
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Checked ball, its clean. Checked everything. Its all clean. In a dm it would be LPR issue but i know geo doesnt have one. WTF?!?!
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when checking the ball make sure its round and not oval. also look at your reg seat. you can flip the seat around, or you should have one in your spares. what kind of lube are you using?
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Old 01-06-2013, 08:38 PM #13
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Need more air. Will get tomorrow. If anyone thinks of anything, let me know.

For all i Know, the o rings fixed it. I just didnt have enough air to completely cycle bolt. I dont know for sure but i will tomorrow. Thanks a lot guys!
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Old 01-06-2013, 08:45 PM #14
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when checking the ball make sure its round and not oval. also look at your reg seat. you can flip the seat around, or you should have one in your spares. what kind of lube are you using?
Its round; flipped reg seat, has a little circle in it. dont know if thats normal or not; but i dnt have a spare.

Hater sauce. I noticed with the dwell at 12.5 there was a lot f bolt stick i had to push bolt back to get it from sticking.
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Old 01-06-2013, 09:21 PM #15
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use the eclipse grease. I use it not because Im an eclipse tech but because when it starts getting old or in need of servicing you can tell because its no longer white. I have also seen problems with aftermarket grease in geos, dont chance it, not worth it.
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sounds like you have the wrong propshaft, but ur noid could be shot
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Its round; flipped reg seat, has a little circle in it. dont know if thats normal or not; but i dnt have a spare.

Hater sauce. I noticed with the dwell at 12.5 there was a lot f bolt stick i had to push bolt back to get it from sticking.
Hater sauce is too thick for many spool valve guns in my experience. That's probably why you were getting bolt stick, and maybe the shootdown. Dow33 will work great (it's sold as 'Sleek' by SP) as well as the Eclipse stuff.
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Old 01-07-2013, 03:49 PM #19
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i cleaned all orings and relubed with PE grease. I did a thin layer since its a little chilly. Dont know if this fixed the issue since i couldnt get air today. Hopefully tomorrow
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:24 PM #20
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The issue is fixed.....kinda.
I can now get a consistent stream of 12.5 without any drop off but as soon as i go into uncapped, it starts doing it again.
Not a big deal but i want to find out whats wrong so i can re sell it later.
I also noticed the bolt will "purge" if i air it up with the bolt forward. I dont know what this is but i dont wanna mess with anything. I may need new lube or orings but im not gonna chance it.
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