[8765]

Originally Posted by firefoxx04

to be honest, i dont think the oring monkey kits include the 90 duro... ive been meaning to ask him.

The kit I bought from them didn't. I contacted them and they remedied it, but I can't say whether they fixed all their kits. My G3 is long gone, but I did have that duro mis-match problem. Basically it causes perma bolt stick. No amount of lube or whatever will fix it, other than a proper oring replacement.

Anyways, buying a G3 parts kit will have just about every part you need to fix any "broken" G3 marker.

[GANGSTAweezy911]

Originally Posted by skateandpaint

Ok so this guy is thinking of trading me his g3 with a leak down the barrel for a working ion i have around. he says its leaking down the barrel im guessing it just needs new orings? or could it be a bigger problem? any help is appreciated, thank you.

I had the same problem with my g4. It it the o-rings in the bolt area that needs new o-rings. That would be my guess don't take my word for it. That's just what was wrong with mine. And I took it to my local shop and they thought it was the solanoid. But it was actually just the o-rings on the actual gun that was the problem. Not the ones on the bolt.

[geckx7]

I feel like most "local shops" blame the solenoid. It's easier that way.

[CA_Tectonics]

Originally Posted by GANGSTAweezy911

I had the same problem with my g4. It it the o-rings in the bolt area that needs new o-rings. That would be my guess don't take my word for it. That's just what was wrong with mine. And I took it to my local shop and they thought it was the solanoid. But it was actually just the o-rings on the actual gun that was the problem. Not the ones on the bolt.

- good thing since the stock G4 bolt doesn't have o-rings .

[skateandpaint]

ok so he says the bolt stays foward and does not cycle...so noid i guess is bad?

[firefoxx04]

Originally Posted by geckx7

I feel like most "local shops" blame the solenoid. It's easier that way.

alot of DP spoolies suffer from a stuck noid, ive got plenty of "broken" guns running and tournament ready after a noid regrease.


if the bolt stays forward and GUSHES air out, the noid is most likely stuck (assuming ALL bolt orings are working (breach oring would cause this)


I actually fixed a g3 today. It would just puff air and would not cycle. Regreased the noid with lurker lube and now it shoots 285fps at 15bps.

[skateandpaint]

ok so i will def try to re greese the noid when i get it. will a g4 parts kit work? or does it need to be for a g3

[firefoxx04]

it has to be a g3 parts kit

G3 - g3, g3iq, g3 SE, IQ

G4 - spec r, g4, and MAYBE the g5 but that has not been confirmed yet.

[geckx7]

Originally Posted by firefoxx04

G4 - spec r, g4, and MAYBE the g5 but that has not been confirmed yet.

Doubt it. I know already gripe frame screws are different. With the changes in the bolt I wouldn't be surprised the orings have changed.

[firefoxx04]

i dont see why they would be different if the bolts are swapable without causing leeks or bolt stick.

[CA_Tectonics]

Originally Posted by geckx7

Doubt it. I know already gripe frame screws are different. With the changes in the bolt I wouldn't be surprised the orings have changed.

Originally Posted by firefoxx04

i dont see why they would be different if the bolts are swapable without causing leeks or bolt stick.

Yes and no. There are some different sized o-rings on the G5. However, the bolt/breach/backcap o-rings are the same on the G4 and G5. The 1 difference for these specific areas is that it looks like the G5 backcap has an extra o-ring on the threads part of the backcap (for a total of 2 on the threads area), whereas the G4 only has 1 there.

Also just a side note.....

*grip
* (missing word =) if
*don't
*leaks

[skateandpaint]

Originally Posted by firefoxx04

alot of DP spoolies suffer from a stuck noid, ive got plenty of "broken" guns running and tournament ready after a noid regrease.


if the bolt stays forward and GUSHES air out, the noid is most likely stuck (assuming ALL bolt orings are working (breach oring would cause this)


I actually fixed a g3 today. It would just puff air and would not cycle. Regreased the noid with lurker lube and now it shoots 285fps at 15bps.

ok so if the noid is sticking but it still clicks does that mean it just needs to be greesed? cuz if so i wont buy a whole parts kit, just orings and some dow 33 to greese the noid

[xmc1146]

Originally Posted by skateandpaint

ok so if the noid is sticking but it still clicks does that mean it just needs to be greesed? cuz if so i wont buy a whole parts kit, just orings and some dow 33 to greese the noid

yes, you could do that.

[SCM killa]

Originally Posted by CA_Tectonics

Also just a side note.....

*grip
* (missing word =) if
*don't
*leaks

You missed the lowercase "I" at the beginning of Joe's post.

[skateandpaint]

Ok so he said exact problem is the bolt stays foward and gushes air. so im guessing stuck noid...should i order a new noid piston? there only 3 bucks frm dp

[CA_Tectonics]

Originally Posted by skateandpaint

Ok so he said exact problem is the bolt stays foward and gushes air. so im guessing stuck noid...should i order a new noid piston? there only 3 bucks frm dp

Have you already made the trade and have the marker in hand?

If not, wait until you have it and then you can break it down and do a full clean and relube. This may be all it needs.

[skateandpaint]

Originally Posted by CA_Tectonics

Have you already made the trade and have the marker in hand?

If not, wait until you have it and then you can break it down and do a full clean and relube. This may be all it needs.

nah i dont have it yet, just trying to troubleshoot before i get it..i must commend everyone in the DP forum for the immense amount of help you have all offered me you guys have been great!!! but i mean new orings seem like they are certainly going to be neededl...and dow 33 works fine right?

[GraniteGargoyle]

Originally Posted by skateandpaint

nah i dont have it yet, just trying to troubleshoot before i get it..i must commend everyone in the DP forum for the immense amount of help you have all offered me you guys have been great!!! but i mean new orings seem like they are certainly going to be neededl...and dow 33 works fine right?

I use Monkey Poo for my G3s and F8. It works great and smells weird These guys are the reason I have continued to buy DP. I have bought a couple "broken" guns and these guys helped me get them running in no time and have taught me ALOT about paintball markers in general. They're all great.

[CA_Tectonics]

Originally Posted by skateandpaint

nah i dont have it yet, just trying to troubleshoot before i get it..i must commend everyone in the DP forum for the immense amount of help you have all offered me you guys have been great!!! but i mean new orings seem like they are certainly going to be neededl...and dow 33 works fine right?

That's what I was getting at - o-rings may not be needed. It may simply need a good cleaning and relube. If you want to get the noid piston, go right ahead BUT, personally, I would wait because you may find that you might need something else (or some other o-rings) too and it is much more cost-effective to get it all at once. Just my 2-cents. As for lube - Yes, that will work. Other lubes may work better but you'll be fine with the Dow33. If you happen to have any paintball oil too, you could mix up a little Dow33 and a drop or 3 of the PB oil and you're good to go.

[skateandpaint]

Originally Posted by CA_Tectonics

That's what I was getting at - o-rings may not be needed. It may simply need a good cleaning and relube. If you want to get the noid piston, go right ahead BUT, personally, I would wait because you may find that you might need something else (or some other o-rings) too and it is much more cost-effective to get it all at once. Just my 2-cents. As for lube - Yes, that will work. Other lubes may work better but you'll be fine with the Dow33. If you happen to have any paintball oil too, you could mix up a little Dow33 and a drop or 3 of the PB oil and you're good to go.

well i ordered a 2x rebuild kit fr the g3 just to be ready and im going to wait on buying the piston..eyes might be bad too, is there a way i can tell if its the eyes themself or the wire? or are they together? stupid? ik

[skateandpaint]

and how does sleek lube and gold cup gun oil sound?