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Old 01-02-2013, 08:33 PM #1
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Pinokio or Empire Scion

In the market for a new loader. Ansgear has the Pinokio on sale for $89. I play mostly speedball with a little woodsball thrown in. I am concerned about the Pinokios size but its overall weight is very similar to all the other loaders. Any body have some advice?
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:53 PM #2
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scion for sure. Not a big fan of the pinokio.
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:57 AM #3
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Do you want a whale on top of your gun? Me neither.

I just got a Scion for a buddy of mine, and it looks money. Z2 internals in a halo shell.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:13 AM #4
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The Pinokio isn't really that big on top of the gun...

In the time that I played with one I didn't have any issues with it, and then I owned a Fasta which I used for most of the summer without issues either.

Basically, if you want a hopper that will never jam that has a high capacity which will have insanely efficient battery life, go with the Pinokio. If you want a Z2 in a Halo shell, get a Scion.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:16 PM #5
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I've played with a Halo, a Pinokio, and a Dye. I still prefer and use the Pinokio the most. I play scenario only and use it with and without the extended hopper. Its great for being the one guy that doesnt have to reload during heavy firefights. Yes, it can be big with the attachment, but without the attachment it is not that much bigger than my halo or dye. hopefully this helps.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:16 PM #6
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Pinokio isn't really that big. The feedneck placement is a little further forward, and there are less angles (which gives it that blimp look). Side by side, it's the same size as a Halo... which is the same size as the Scion.

Scion doesn't have completely identical Z2 internals, just the drive carrier, which replaces the drive cone found in the Halo. The rest is pretty much Halo internals, even down to the eye sensors.

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Old 01-07-2013, 06:20 PM #7
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Scion. I. Had a pinokio and its HUGE, but its light. Don't think I'll ever buy a pinokio again. Get the scion
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:37 AM #8
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I personally say the Pinokio. The Scion looks to be sort of like a Halo with better internals, and on certain guns, the Halo looks and feels great. However, I recently picked up a Pinokio on BST, and havent touched my Halo since. It is much lighter, doesn't put as much pressure on the ball stack, and personally feels great on my Etha. Take into account that I'm comparing a Pinokio to a Halo, not a Scion, as I have yet to see or use a Scion, but they look to be pretty similar. Honestly, I'd buy the hopper in good condition used on BST and save a pretty penny. I got my Pinokio for $50 on there.
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