Reflex rail problem

dangerous freak! · 01-01-2013, 06:21 PM

I have a leak coming out of my selanoid for my 2012 proto reflex rail. I'm not sure how to fix it? Any ideas?

pushc6 · 01-01-2013, 07:37 PM

What's the gun chronoing at? Leaky solenoid is usually a result of a dying battery or too much pressure to the noid and its bleeding off.

dangerous freak! · 01-01-2013, 07:40 PM

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What's the gun chronoing at? Leaky solenoid is usually a result of a dying battery or too much pressure to the noid and its bleeding off.

It's chrono ing 280 should I chrono it down and back up again?? The leak has come and gone all day

grss429 · 01-01-2013, 07:56 PM

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It's chrono ing 280 should I chrono it down and back up again?? The leak has come and gone all day

Nope, leave it chrono'd at 280.

Change the #015 bolt sail oring, and the outside can orings #020

report back.

dangerous freak! · 01-01-2013, 08:16 PM

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Nope, leave it chrono'd at 280.

Change the #015 bolt sail oring, and the outside can orings #020

report back.

Replaced issue still there. If not a litter louder

dangerous freak! · 01-01-2013, 08:52 PM

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Nope, leave it chrono'd at 280.

Change the #015 bolt sail oring, and the outside can orings #020

report back.

I took my selanoid out and there was a bunch of white stuff all over it I cleaned that off.. And it leaked even more...

pushc6 · 01-02-2013, 06:35 AM

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I took my selanoid out and there was a bunch of white stuff all over it I cleaned that off.. And it leaked even more...

Have you replaced the battery? Mine would leak only with the gun on and it was a bad battery. If you want to be sure it's the 'noid separate the frame from the body and air the gun up. You should be able to hear it loud and clear.

If it's from the 'noid I have had good luck dialing back the reg pressure, then turning it back up to hit 280 fps. Probably time I service my reg.

dangerous freak! · 01-02-2013, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pushc6

Have you replaced the battery? Mine would leak only with the gun on and it was a bad battery. If you want to be sure it's the 'noid separate the frame from the body and air the gun up. You should be able to hear it loud and clear.

If it's from the 'noid I have had good luck dialing back the reg pressure, then turning it back up to hit 280 fps. Probably time I service my reg.

I've done all that too!!!! It's so weird!

Sh0ckw4v3 · 01-02-2013, 08:27 AM

You may just need a new solenoid

dangerous freak! · 01-02-2013, 08:28 AM

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You may just need a new solenoid

I've barel put 4 cases through my gun though? Danngg.

pushc6 · 01-02-2013, 09:21 AM

Yea, may need a new solenoid then. You have aired the gun up with the frame off and actually heard it coming from the solenoid? There are some screws that could be loose on the body that would let air through and make it seem like it's the solenoid unless you pinpoint it w\ the frame off.

dangerous freak! · 01-02-2013, 09:24 AM

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Yea, may need a new solenoid then. You have aired the gun up with the frame off and actually heard it coming from the solenoid?

Yes sir. At first it was very faint. Then I cleaned up the selanoid because there was this white stud ALLL over and it leaked even louder

pushc6 · 01-02-2013, 09:31 AM

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Yes sir. At first it was very faint. Then I cleaned up the selanoid because there was this white stud ALLL over and it leaked even louder

One last thing you could check is to see what kind of pressure your reg is putting out. The reg could be putting out slightly more pressure than it's designed for and it's bleeding off the excess. Have you tried turning the regulator ALL the way back so the gun barely gets any pressure and seeing if it continues to leak? If it doesn't, start slowly cranking it up, take 5-10 shots, chrono, and see where it starts leaking (if it does). If it's leaking with even a little bit of pressure going through then it's probably just a bad solenoid.

dangerous freak! · 01-02-2013, 10:06 AM

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One last thing you could check is to see what kind of pressure your reg is putting out. The reg could be putting out slightly more pressure than it's designed for and it's bleeding off the excess. Have you tried turning the regulator ALL the way back so the gun barely gets any pressure and seeing if it continues to leak? If it doesn't, start slowly cranking it up, take 5-10 shots, chrono, and see where it starts leaking (if it does). If it's leaking with even a little bit of pressure going through then it's probably just a bad solenoid.

Did that too. I'm taking it to my tech this week. Thanks for all the help everyone!!

Sh0ckw4v3 · 01-02-2013, 04:31 PM

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Did that too. I'm taking it to my tech this week. Thanks for all the help everyone!!

Let us know what the tech says, I'm very curious to what it actually is lol

woodsplaya · 01-02-2013, 07:26 PM

My reflex was doing the same thing. Took it to the shop and got it back and they changed the orings, lubed and rebuilt the hpr and put the stock bolt back in and said everything was great and shooting well. Got to the field this past weekend for the first time back with the marker and it was cronoing at 250. Turned it up to 265 and it started to leak again, couldn't get it to the field allowed speed of 285 without blowing lots of air. So played all day at 265 and would turn my air on right when the match was about to start. So need to take it back and see what they say now.

dangerous freak! · 01-02-2013, 11:11 PM

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My reflex was doing the same thing. Took it to the shop and got it back and they changed the orings, lubed and rebuilt the hpr and put the stock bolt back in and said everything was great and shooting well. Got to the field this past weekend for the first time back with the marker and it was cronoing at 250. Turned it up to 265 and it started to leak again, couldn't get it to the field allowed speed of 285 without blowing lots of air. So played all day at 265 and would turn my air on right when the match was about to start. So need to take it back and see what they say now.

Exactly what happened to me this weekend too!!
I'm taking it in tomarrow.

dangerous freak! · 01-02-2013, 11:34 PM

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My reflex was doing the same thing. Took it to the shop and got it back and they changed the orings, lubed and rebuilt the hpr and put the stock bolt back in and said everything was great and shooting well. Got to the field this past weekend for the first time back with the marker and it was cronoing at 250. Turned it up to 265 and it started to leak again, couldn't get it to the field allowed speed of 285 without blowing lots of air. So played all day at 265 and would turn my air on right when the match was about to start. So need to take it back and see what they say now.

Yep. Same thing for mine.

woodsplaya · 01-03-2013, 05:56 PM

My tech says it could be a few factors
~weather (was 36-42 degrees this past weekend, marker was tuned in warmer weather)
~battery (used new one so i rule this out)
~all new orings on bolt so needs break-in time
~too low of a dwell for the weather

I didnt up the dwell but I did use a new battery. I believe it was mostly due to the weather and being a spoolie, the cold weather seems to affect them more.
Although the second reflex I had with me didn't leak.

DanoPGH · 01-04-2013, 08:53 PM

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I took my selanoid out and there was a bunch of white stuff all over it I cleaned that off.. And it leaked even more...

that white stuff was probably the lube from the factory

Ojshattuck · 01-07-2013, 10:40 AM

Jizz..... It was defiantly jizz.