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Old 01-03-2013, 05:21 PM #631
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Care to link to something like this so we know what the hell you're talking about?

You can bumpfire a gun with nothing but a damn rubber band. If you want it to be full-auto, you have to modify internal parts of the gun.
I will when I get home and Google it, they're easy to find and an SKS isn't hard to modify.
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Old 01-03-2013, 05:24 PM #632
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He's talking about a slide fire stock, an expensive and over priced tool to help you bump fire. While it may help you achieve a high rate of fire, you won't be able to aim and shoot it fast. it is also not consistent. furthermore you still pulls the trigger each time.
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They don't even look fun. If an accessory makes a firearm less accurate (with the exception of the original suppressors) it seems more or less useless to me.
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Care to link to something like this so we know what the hell you're talking about?

You can bumpfire a gun with nothing but a damn rubber band. If you want it to be full-auto, you have to modify internal parts of the gun.
It's a "bumpfire" kit that comes with a trigger assembly that handily has a smaller sear and a set of instructions like this.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13758632/S...Full-Auto-Sear
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:25 PM #635
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That is pretty clearly being called a full-auto sear.

Nothing there implies that the rifle itself is still semi-automatic.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:27 PM #636
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That is pretty clearly being called a full-auto sear.

Nothing there implies that the rifle itself is still semi-automatic.
That's why I keep using the quotes around bumpfire. My point is it's easy to attain a full auto rifle and not hard at all to modify one. I'm not for new gun restrictions but don't be as ignorant as you're trying to portray the other side.
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It's not marketed as bumpfire at all. It's marketed as a full-auto sear and it's not legal to install. That will make your rifle full auto, no ifs/ands/buts about it.

The slidefire stocks are different. Those are pretty much just a sliding stock with a spring that uses the recoil from the rifle to compress it, then it moves the rifle back forward, which pushes the trigger against your finger to fire another round. The gun's still semi-auto and the stocks can lock in place so that the gun still functions as semi-auto.

I don't have extreme favors for either side and they're both doing/saying ignorant things. I'm not saying I support the use of slidefire stocks or that I want to ban them. It's not my place to make that call. But know the difference between changing the internal firing mechanism of a gun and adding something to the outside of it to automate full-auto.
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I'm talking about a full auto conversion that's commonly sold as a bumpfire kit.
bump firing is not full auto. an auto sear is an NFA item as far as I'm aware which means $200 tax stamp and paper trail. It's possible to convert a gun to full auto without a registered auto sear and that is a good way to earn yourself a one way trip to federal pound me in the *** prison.
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It's not marketed as bumpfire at all. It's marketed as a full-auto sear and it's not legal to install. That will make your rifle full auto, no ifs/ands/buts about it.

The slidefire stocks are different. Those are pretty much just a sliding stock with a spring that uses the recoil from the rifle to compress it, then it moves the rifle back forward, which pushes the trigger against your finger to fire another round. The gun's still semi-auto and the stocks can lock in place so that the gun still functions as semi-auto.

I don't have extreme favors for either side and they're both doing/saying ignorant things. I'm not saying I support the use of slidefire stocks or that I want to ban them. It's not my place to make that call. But know the difference between changing the internal firing mechanism of a gun and adding something to the outside of it to automate full-auto.
Ask for a full auto setup and you'll get laughed at. Ask for the "bumpfire" kit and chances are you'll get a lot further.
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bump firing is not full auto. an auto sear is an NFA item as far as I'm aware which means $200 tax stamp and paper trail. It's possible to convert a gun to full auto without a registered auto sear and that is a good way to earn yourself a one way trip to federal pound me in the *** prison.
Yeah but how hard is it to get?
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There are a lot of laws that aren't hard to break. Criminals don't obey laws. And there you see the effectiveness of "gun control."
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New York's governor seems to think anything scary looking or semiautomatic is an assault weapon. Also, 7 round capacity magazines, lol.
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Yeah, your governor is a jackass of epic proportions.
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Senator Dianne Feinstein,

I will not register my weapons should this bill be passed, as I do not believe it is the government's right to know what I own. Nor do I think it prudent to tell you what I own so that it may be taken from me by a group of people who enjoy armed protection yet decry me having the same a crime.

You ma'am have overstepped a line that is not your domain. I am a Marine Corps Veteran of 8 years, and I will not have some woman who proclaims the evil of an inanimate object, yet carries one, tell me I may not have one.

I am not your subject. I am the man who keeps you free. I am not your servant. I am the person whom you serve. I am not your peasant. I am the flesh and blood of America.

I am the man who fought for my country. I am the man who learned. I am an American. You will not tell me that I must register my semi-automatic AR-15 because of the actions of some evil man.

I will not be disarmed to suit the fear that has been established by the media and your misinformation campaign against the American public.

We, the people, deserve better than you.

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Yeah, your governor is a jackass of epic proportions.
I don't think the Texas governor really has that much power. He's kind of like the king of england. It's just a position that people from old oil money take because they can.
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Ask for a full auto setup and you'll get laughed at. Ask for the "bumpfire" kit and chances are you'll get a lot further.
Ask for a bumpfire kit and you'll get a bumpfire kit, most likely.
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New York's governor seems to think anything scary looking or semiautomatic is an assault weapon. Also, 7 round capacity magazines, lol.
I always wonder. Do those 7 round mag limits apply to pistols, too?

I've never even seen mags that small for fullsize glocks or anything.
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As you've said, you don't need a kit to bumpfire.

Torque application is pretty ****ing cool for something so cheap.
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