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Old 12-30-2012, 06:35 PM #1
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low pressure benefits ?

I recently bought a Crossfire reg and dropped my input pressure to 450 psi, other then stress on the internals are there any other benefits to this ? I would have tested the more shots per fill theory but our air system was only putting out 3000 psi today.
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:22 PM #2
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I have read some folks say that it leads to better consistency. I don't know that it has actually been proven, but hey, nothing to lose!
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:00 AM #3
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There's a lot of talk that lower pressure gives better consistency, less wear on internals, etc.

I use a ninja pro reg at the lowest output pressure and pray to the paintball gods there is a benefit
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:21 AM #4
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have there been any proven benefits? also, how could i get my pure energy 68/45 to run on low pressure?
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Old 12-31-2012, 05:55 PM #5
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have there been any proven benefits? also, how could i get my pure energy 68/45 to run on low pressure?
I talked to an Empire rep a few months ago and asked them about this and they told me they have a shim kit out, but I have never seen it.
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Old 12-31-2012, 06:28 PM #6
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have there been any proven benefits? also, how could i get my pure energy 68/45 to run on low pressure?
I have a pe 68/45 and I had to buy a shim kit for it.

http://www.ansgear.com/PMI_Pure_Ener...orpartskit.htm

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Old 12-31-2012, 07:19 PM #7
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I found that tank pressure could go lower before seeing any dropoff when using LP over HP.

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Old 01-01-2013, 02:49 PM #8
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I have a pe 68/45 and I had to buy a shim kit for it.

http://www.ansgear.com/PMI_Pure_Ener...orpartskit.htm

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well i bought the tank used and it has a ninja reg on it, im trying to find out if it is adjustable
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Old 01-01-2013, 04:18 PM #9
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It's suppose to make the HPR regulator more consistent. The HPR doesn't have to do as much "work" (for lack of a better term) to get the pressure down from ~450psi on a LP tank compared to 800psi on a HP tank. There usually isn't a noticeable difference if you have a quality HPR, but I've seen low pressure tanks help with some cheap HPRs. The Mini and Relays are nice enough that it shouldn't make much of a difference.

Some HPR's can spike when first aired up with a HP tank, which can damage a solenoid. That's another reason a LP tank can help. But again, this isn't a problem when you have a high quality HPR...

The long term benefits make sense and there might be some consistency to be gained, so I'd use it as a LP reg. Ya don't have anything to lose. Just make sure there is ~200psi difference between the tank and HPR settings to prevent shootdown.
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well i bought the tank used and it has a ninja reg on it, im trying to find out if it is adjustable
lol Yes all ninja regs are adjustable, check youtube for a video how to do it. Very simple


Ebay also has the kit for PE/Empire reactor regs, i paid $8 shipped for mine. You actually only need to add one shim set to the reg, but you get completely new shims.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Pure-Ene...em5645d9 8547
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:18 PM #11
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I have a pe 68/45 and I had to buy a shim kit for it.

http://www.ansgear.com/PMI_Pure_Ener...orpartskit.htm

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I didn't buy that kit because I had a basic Empire/PE reg, not the Reactor. I played with mine yesterday worked fairly well, but with only 3000 psi fills it was hard to tell if it really made a difference or not.
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I didn't buy that kit because I had a basic Empire/PE reg, not the Reactor. I played with mine yesterday worked fairly well, but with only 3000 psi fills it was hard to tell if it really made a difference or not.
Im pretty sure the basic reg is a reactor man, post a pic of it

I have the stock reg that comes on empire tanks, worked on mine just fine. Its the 48/45 btw this one http://www.ansgear.com/Empire_48_450...tank484500.htm
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:25 PM #13
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Im pretty sure the basic reg is a reactor man, post a pic of it

I have the stock reg that comes on empire tanks, worked on mine just fine. Its the 48/45 btw this one http://www.ansgear.com/Empire_48_450...tank484500.htm
I don't have a pic of it, I donated it to my local field whom had a 110/4500 that needed a reg, since they swapped my regs and didn't charge me anything, I thought it to be a gesture of good will. But it did look like your reg. I like the shortness of my tank now, I bet it's just a hair longer then your tank now.
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I don't have a pic of it, I donated it to my local field whom had a 110/4500 that needed a reg, since they swapped my regs and didn't charge me anything, I thought it to be a gesture of good will. But it did look like your reg. I like the shortness of my tank now, I bet it's just a hair longer then your tank now.
It doesn't take much to take a tank reg on or off. All ya got to do take the old one off, make sure the threads are clean, and put the new one on with at least 40lb of pressure and make sure there isn't a gap between tank and reg; just never use loctite or anything else on the threads. Just an FYI in case ya ever have to do it again.
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It doesn't take much to take a tank reg on or off. All ya got to do take the old one off, make sure the threads are clean, and put the new one on with at least 40lb of pressure and make sure there isn't a gap between tank and reg; just never use loctite or anything else on the threads. Just an FYI in case ya ever have to do it again.
I done them in the past and we use blue loctite on the threads for safety reasons. I just dont have a the proper vice or strap bench so I had the field do it.
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I done them in the past and we use blue loctite on the threads for safety reasons. I just dont have a the proper vice or strap bench so I had the field do it.
Using loctite is actually the most unsafe thing you can do. The regulars threads have a hole in them that is designed to vent if the reg comes unscrewed from the tank to a certain point. The loctite can dry in the safety hole, blocking it, and turning your tank reg into a missile. I believe a woman was killed at her own sons birthday parts a few years ago in Cali when this same thing happened with a CO2 tank. Sadly, most fields and "pro shops" don't even know this.

The pressure inside the tank presses against the regulator and keeps it from turning. That pressure is enough to keep it on most of the time, but loctite is asking for trouble.
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