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Old 12-28-2012, 02:12 PM #1
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is the 360 reg balanced?

Ie does the input pressure affect the output pressure? And also is the lpr balanced?

Annnnd I'm considering getting either a g6r or a victory. I'm coming from spoolies so what would be better for me considering ease of maintenance, sound, ergos (if any different)? I know this is the Timmy subforum, but hopefully bl owners are unbiased
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:22 PM #2
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:02 PM #3
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What the hell are you asking sir?
Lol you know how sl3 regs are balanced so switching the tank reg output pressure doesn't affect the hpr's output pressure? Does the same thing apply to 360's?
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:14 PM #4
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bob longs reg output doesn't change based on the tank output... if that's what you're asking.
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Old 12-28-2012, 05:00 PM #5
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Ie does the input pressure affect the output pressure? And also is the lpr balanced?

Annnnd I'm considering getting either a g6r or a victory. I'm coming from spoolies so what would be better for me considering ease of maintenance, sound, ergos (if any different)? I know this is the Timmy subforum, but hopefully bl owners are unbiased
You sir don't know what a balanced reg is .

I would go with the victory based on your wants
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And I think you heard balanced spool valve (like a dm12 vs unbalanced spool (think luxe)
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Old 12-28-2012, 05:05 PM #7
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if any LPR or HPR changes pressure based on your tanks pressure then your LPR or HPR has a problem
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Old 12-28-2012, 07:06 PM #8
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Tyronejk - both markers are pretty low maintenance. The G6R takes a little more disassembly for full maintenance but most people would only need to do that once per season.

The Victory you can remove the engine without tools for routine maintenance on the engine.

G6R is a little lighter. Victory has a fully enclosed bolt so dust/rain have a harder time getting in.

The height of the barrel above the hand is slightly higher on the G6R since it is a stacked tube design. The Victory is more like a spool in terms of barrel above the wrist.

G6R has more milling choices. Victory has the Ripper.
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Old 12-28-2012, 08:13 PM #10
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You sir don't know what a balanced reg is .

I would go with the victory based on your wants
http://straval.com/blog/20110209/bal...lanced-valves/
http://www.scubatoys.com/store/joela...umatically.asp

I'm pretty sure I know what a balanced reg is.

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if any LPR or HPR changes pressure based on your tanks pressure then your LPR or HPR has a problem
Take a Luxe, adjust the reg with a slp tank reg, then screw in a HP tank. Congratulations, you blew your solenoid.

Thank you for the ignorance, you trolls.

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Old 12-28-2012, 08:46 PM #11
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I will say that depending on what spool you're coming from will make a difference. I went from a Droid - G6R - Clone - Vice - Closer and the stacked tube poppets just aren't my thing even though they are almost as smooth and quiet as spools they feel different (cycling and in the hands because of the LPR and taller body). All that to say that depending on why you like spools I'd probably recommend the vic for your transition.
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:16 PM #12
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I will say that depending on what spool you're coming from will make a difference. I went from a Droid - G6R - Clone - Vice - Closer and the stacked tube poppets just aren't my thing even though they are almost as smooth and quiet as spools they feel different (cycling and in the hands because of the LPR and taller body). All that to say that depending on why you like spools I'd probably recommend the vic for your transition.
I like spools mainly because of the soft, quiet shot. I'm using a shocker now in the southeast and may go to college I'm the northeast and my shocker doesn't do so well in the cold. I also like the enclosed design of spools, so a victory will probably be better. And it's quieter than a g6r, right?
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:28 PM #13
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I really can't say if it's quieter but most of the things you hit on are the vics strengths. The G6R was almost as smooth and quiet as my clone vx so it won't disappoint either. Honestly though clones don't have as bad of fsdo as most other spools... I had none.
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Take a Luxe, adjust the reg with a slp tank reg, then screw in a HP tank. Congratulations, you blew your solenoid.

Thank you for the ignorance, you trolls.
wait, seriously? WTF that's bull****.
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:28 AM #15
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I really can't say if it's quieter but most of the things you hit on are the vics strengths. The G6R was almost as smooth and quiet as my clone vx so it won't disappoint either. Honestly though clones don't have as bad of fsdo as most other spools... I had none.
Okay then. I guess I'll try and see if I can shoot them all or maybe find the best deal on those guns haha. Thanks for your help.
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Old 12-29-2012, 02:15 AM #16
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Take a Luxe, adjust the reg with a slp tank reg, then screw in a HP tank. Congratulations, you blew your solenoid.

Thank you for the ignorance, you trolls.
Umm..sorry to disappoint but you are way wrong on that. So many times I put my slp reg on my luxe and when I went to chrono I would have drop off in a stream. Looked at my tank and saw it was my slp so I slapped myself and changed to my standard LP no-shims ninja. Never had to increase my reg to get to chrono speed. Iv done this to multiple luxes, clones, dm's, egos and other guns I don't feel like listing.

Am I calling you a liar? Not at all. I believe it could have happened to someone. Will it happen? It's an extremely slim chance that the "scenario" you mentioned will happen.
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http://straval.com/blog/20110209/bal...lanced-valves/
http://www.scubatoys.com/store/joela...umatically.asp

I'm pretty sure I know what a balanced reg is.

Take a Luxe, adjust the reg with a slp tank reg, then screw in a HP tank. Congratulations, you blew your solenoid.

Thank you for the ignorance, you trolls.

EDIT: but thanks Tim, xeese, and shifty.
not sure how I'm trolling by saying that if your pressure changes you have a problem with your LPR or HPR. I can put ANY tank reg on ANY of my guns and the HPR and LPR pressures never change. my bad if its not the answer you wanted to hear
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and according to the links you posted I would be correct with my statement if a gun has a balanced reg. and on top of that any paintball gun with an unbalanced reg would have to have the HPR pressure changed all the time due to the pressure changes coming into it.
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as far as i know, when you switch from an hp tank to a lpr tank or vice versa, the pressures change, but just the hp pressure, meaning the velocity...
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This is feature is simply over-exaggerated by eclipse. Any good quality paintball in-line regulator that is made today to my knowledge is "balanced" in that it will self adjust in order to maintain a consistent pressure regardless of the input pressure. I have honestly not seen an unbalanced regulator on a paintball gun that I can remember. As your link says the unbalanced regulators can be found occasionally on non-inline reg styles such as those found on some scuba tanks. An unbalanced regulator has a lot less consistency and is less than ideal for most paintball applications where you are looking for extremely high consistency.

So to answer your question in short, yes but so is almost everything else out there.

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This is feature is simply over-exaggerated by eclipse. Any good quality paintball in-line regulator that is made today to my knowledge is "balanced" in that it will self adjust in order to maintain a consistent pressure regardless of the input pressure. I have honestly not seen an unbalanced regulator on a paintball gun that I can remember. As your link says the unbalanced regulators can be found occasionally on non-inline reg styles such as those found on some scuba tanks. An unbalanced regulator has a lot less consistency and is less than ideal for most paintball applications where you are looking for extremely high consistency.

So to answer your question in short, yes but so is almost everything else out there.
Thank you very much for the helpful answer. I've always used sp guns, ions and nxts, which have unbalanced regs.


And for future reference, this a perfectly balanced reg:
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