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Old 01-25-2013, 08:21 PM #1429
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Only a few of us...

Is it racist? No, its not. But as Rip mentioned there aren't very many minorities. I have 36 people that work for me. Out of the 36, I have 3 African Americans, 1 Hispanic, and everyone else is Cucasian.

The South Western side of the state is a wasteland (Green river, Rock Springs, Wamsutter, etc) The Eastern edge is grassland (Cheyenne, Wheatland, Douglas, Gillette). The NorthWestern and North Central are mountains (Jackson, Teton NP, Yellowstone, Cody, Graybull, Sheridan, Story, Buffalo). The center is rolling hills and a low mountain range (Casper, Kaycee, Lander, Riverton).

Crime is low.

Public eduction is better than National Ave (and better than surrounding states).

Unemployment is way lower than national ave.
I like it here and I've lived all over


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Old 01-25-2013, 08:38 PM #1430
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:49 PM #1431
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The real point is that banning assault rifles is not the proper thing to do. Pistols are more easy to sneak in to public areas, easier to maneuver with, and cheaper/easier to obtain. Banning assault rifles is pointless. It doesn't do anything.
I agree with this. Someone could easily enter a mall or movie theatre strapped with 3 pistols and kill/injure a lot of people. Thats why its complete bull**** that businesses have a right to put a sign on their door saying no firearms, completely taking away the way to defend myself.

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Old 01-25-2013, 09:21 PM #1432
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I'm going to have to go on a killing spree with a revolver now, thanks *** holes.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:53 PM #1434
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The real point is that banning assault rifles is not the proper thing to do. Pistols are more easy to sneak in to public areas, easier to maneuver with, and cheaper/easier to obtain. Banning assault rifles is pointless. It doesn't do anything.
I don't agree with the bans but saying it doesn't do anything is a flat out lie. These rifles are much more effective at killing than a handgun. That's like saying we should give ground forces in the military M9s because they would be more mobile instead of an M16. If you can force a gunman to use a pistol with a smaller caliber instead of a rifle with a larger caliber, you've saved some lives.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:02 PM #1435
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What do you guys think would be more deadly in a mass shooting environment.

A. AR-15 with a belt of magazines.
B. 2 glock 17's with a belt of 33 round magazines.

I always thought if these guys wanted to kill more people, wouldnt option B be more lethal? IMO getting rid of "assault weapons" wont change anything.
Option C: Glock 19 with backpack full of ten round magazines. Like the VA Tech shooter.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:04 PM #1436
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I don't agree with the bans but saying it doesn't do anything is a flat out lie. These rifles are much more effective at killing than a handgun. That's like saying we should give ground forces in the military M9s because they would be more mobile instead of an M16. If you can force a gunman to use a pistol with a smaller caliber instead of a rifle with a larger caliber, you've saved some lives.
Bud, ar15 uses a small caliber. The bullet is only .003 larger than a .22
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:07 PM #1437
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I don't agree with the bans but saying it doesn't do anything is a flat out lie. These rifles are much more effective at killing than a handgun. That's like saying we should give ground forces in the military M9s because they would be more mobile instead of an M16. If you can force a gunman to use a pistol with a smaller caliber instead of a rifle with a larger caliber, you've saved some lives.
You really seem like you don't know anything about firearms.

So what if someone uses a larger handgun caliber instead of a small rifle caliber?
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:08 PM #1438
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I don't agree with the bans but saying it doesn't do anything is a flat out lie. These rifles are much more effective at killing than a handgun. That's like saying we should give ground forces in the military M9s because they would be more mobile instead of an M16. If you can force a gunman to use a pistol with a smaller caliber instead of a rifle with a larger caliber, you've saved some lives.
No, you wouldn't.

VA Tech shooter killed more people than Aurora and Newtown. Columbine killers used pistols and shotguns.

Stop believing the lie that it is the gun that is dangerous. It is not. It is the person who wields it. It's just as capable of use in self defense as it is in a mass shooting.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:12 PM #1439
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No, you wouldn't.

VA Tech shooter killed more people than Aurora and Newtown. Columbine killers used pistols and shotguns.

Stop believing the lie that it is the gun that is dangerous. It is not. It is the person who wields it. It's just as capable of use in self defense as it is in a mass shooting.
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The "assault rifle" that people are targeting is clearly the AR15 which in 95% of ARs, the .223/5.56 round is used which is a smaller round. I don't understand why people believe the media over people who are involved with firearms. That's like me ignoring Derek Jeter and listening to Skip Bayless over how to play baseball.
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You just correctly stated the problem with this country.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:24 PM #1441
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That's like saying we should give ground forces in the military M9s because they would be more mobile instead of an M16.
You seem to be confusing military operations with shooting a crowd with intent of killing the most people possible. The analogy makes no sense.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:25 PM #1442
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Bud, ar15 uses a small caliber. The bullet is only .003 larger than a .22
What's the energy difference?
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:28 PM #1443
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You seem to be confusing military operations with shooting a crowd with intent of killing the most people possible.
I was talking about the damage given in comparison to higher energy rifles than pistols but it's ok if you don't understand.
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What's the energy difference?
It doesn't matter

Shot placement > kinetic energy

A 12 gauge shotgun and .44 magnum revolver deliver more kinetic energy than an AR15.
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I'd prefer a gunmen with a revolver than an AR15, fewer casualties. Fact is, you could get shot in the chest a few times by a 9mm and still walk around but if it's an AR15 you could pull a few pounds of ground beef out your chest, well, the coroner could.
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I'd prefer a gunmen with a revolver than an AR15, fewer casualties. Fact is, you could get shot in the chest a few times by a 9mm and still walk around but if it's an AR15 you could pull a few pounds of ground beef out your chest, well, the coroner could.
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I'd prefer a gunmen with a revolver than an AR15, fewer casualties. Fact is, you could get shot in the chest a few times by a 9mm and still walk around but if it's an AR15 you could pull a few pounds of ground beef out your chest, well, the coroner could.
No, you can't. Not when they puncture your heart, rip through your liver, or destroy your one or both of your lungs.
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I'd prefer a gunmen with a revolver than an AR15, fewer casualties. Fact is, you could get shot in the chest a few times by a 9mm and still walk around but if it's an AR15 you could pull a few pounds of ground beef out your chest, well, the coroner could.
Depends on where you are shot, barrel length, distance from the gun the victim is, etc etc etc
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