Originally Posted by A5Gunner
It's a personal goal to finish school and get a bachelor's degree. I know it's a sad world and economy we live in now.
Why? It sounds like you're in school to be in school. Spending the money to get a useless communications degree will likely put you worse off in life than not doing so, besides accomplishing a 'personal goal'
I'm a really good worker and I know it's only retail but I always get rave reviews from my managers of how great and hard of a worker I'm compared to others. You give me a job I will get it done. I do make mistakes every now and then, but if you tell me once I make sure it doesn't happen again and I learn that way.
thats nice but doesn't really mean anything.
It's come down to Political Science or Communications? Which one do you guys think. I'm going to try to get a job over the summer with my associates that is a little bit higher up compared to retail. I figure I can get some more "work experience" there and then an internship to go with one of the majors.
neither, what are you thinking? Like, you have all these plans related to college degrees, but what are you going to do afterwards? Poly Sci is pretty much useless unless you want to go on to law school, and communications IS just useless; come on, it doesn't even mean anything, wtf? Everyone "communicates" at work...
What area is your associates degree in? Likely, it won't help you find any work. Especially if you haven't done any internships as it seems like you haven't. That's where you should start. And they will be unpaid. you don't have enough experience or any reason to be hired for a paid internship so you should start by looking for credit bearing internships.
I have heard the work experience can override a degree and adding a bachelor's would never hurt.
Here's my idea..
-Political Science: Work as a Paralegal, government job, non-profit agency, maybe business.
-Communication: Pretty much business or some company.
Again, these just don't mean anything. You want to work in "business..."? Come on bro, that just sounds ignorant. There are countless industries and business models, and to say that you want to work "in business or some company" sounds ridiculously uninspired. If I were interviewing you, and that came to light, I would say NEXT
I had a wild idea of Political Science Major I only need 30 cr. to get bachelor's in this program. Then minor in Communications which is like 3 or 4 more classes only.
The Communication major is 39 cr. So it would almost be the same thing and you get both. For Poltical Science the campus I can attend is closer (10 miles) not in the city either compared to 24 miles. going one way for both. Communications minor or major I would have to take at the farther campus. So if it is a minor that could mean only one day a week I have to go there.
again, this is all bull****; you're just doing it to do it. Making a proper major choice has absolutely NOTHING to do with "which campus is closer" or "only having to go one day a week" or "only needing X credits." It's about what is the best INVESTMENT (remember, thats what education is) for your future. Your priorities really seem skewed here, and it seems very clear that you don't know WHY you're at school.
2 people I know reccomended communications and one said poltical science. I personally feel like communication is important in order to talk to people, but in a degree job search I think the poltical science has a little bit more exploration of different areas. Maybe Communications is just enough for a minor? It still has some classes where you have to learn public speaking, get in front of people etc.
Neither of them will get you far, as I've said.
Oh and the communication major is kinda different. You take a lot of communication classes, but you also have to take a few media and theatre classes as well. If you minor you can get it solely in Communications though.
Alright, bro, I'm gonna be real with you, you kind of sound like an average, fairly unintelligent person. Like, you don't know what the **** you're doing at school, most of your ideas seem fairly skewed or flawed, and you seem to be in school for no apparent reason.
I think your first order of business should be developing a 5 year plan for your life. First, take a look at where you want to be in 5 years, work-wise. If you can't think of anything, or its something as generic as "working in business or for some company," then maybe you are
destined to work customer service/retail for the rest of your life, or at best to do grunt office data-entry. That's fine, those jobs exist for a reason, and if that's your 5 year plan, then that's something to shoot for. If, however, your 5 year plan was to become a wholesale account executive for an apparel manufacturer, such as Levis (just winging a completely random career path out of my head), then that gives you something structured to work towards.
Something to consider: you can make a lot of money waiting tables, especially depending on where you live. I just landed a nice entry level position in the major I studied, and I know kids who bring home more than I'm going to be every week just serving, not even full time, at popular restaurants. Of course I live in NYC, but this can certainly apply elsewhere. I'm just mentioning this because your career aspirations seem to extist only because it's what you're "supposed to do," rather than something you actually are PASSIONATE about and want to succeed in.
Next, if you're able to come up with a specific career goal to stride towards, you are able to break down HOW to get there. An easy way to do this? Look at job listings! Parts of most job listings are bull****, but parts are also great ways to get specific look at the skills and experience they are looking for. Then you can come up with a plan. For example, going back to the Levi's AE position: most would probably list several years of wholesale sales experience, so you would probably want to get an internship at a showroom or something like that. Similarly, you can look at the type of education you need to get there. The education should be chosen based on what type of career you want, not the other way around!
Next, internships. As I mentioned, you're going to be looking for unpaid internships to start. Sorry but that's just the reality of the matter; feel free to apply for both but just know that most likely you will be getting an unpaid internship first. And certainly if you don't have any internships I wouldn't even bother applying for positions in the field your AAS is in. AAS doesn't mean anything.
K I'm too lazy to keep tying.
TL;DR: Reevaluate WHY you are at school, choose your major based on your career path choice, not vice versa, get internships, and reevaluate WHY you are at school. Oh yea and choose your major based on your career path choice, not vice versa.
Originally Posted by dub CRISP
neither comm or poli sci are great in this economy, TBH communications is a bit of a joke and poli sci isn't all that helpful in getting a job.
I'm about to graduate with a degree in economics and I have no trouble beating out comm majors for jobs.
If you really want to make yourself useful then major in computer science, every company ever is looking for computer scientists and for some reason people just don't major in it enough.
If you don't like programming then consider math, bio, physics, chem or engineering. You could also try your hand at econ at another school, sometimes it just takes the right professor to get you hooked. If you major in the sciences you will have a lot more opportunity than if you do anything else.
That said though, don't do any of these things if you don't like them. If you have a clear idea about where you want to go after college and you're passionate about it then shoot for it .
this guy knows whats up, bolded some parts I especially agree with. I didn't really get into talking about what majors are the most relevant today, as I still believe (well, its more of a desperate clinging-to of hope) that people should be able to choose their education based on the career they WISH to achieve, not one that they're the MOST LIKELY TO BE ABLE to achieve, but it is certainly increasingly relevant. CS is probably the best choice, but in general I would just say that something more refined, specific and unique is better than the opposite.
For example, I'm graduating this week from Fashion Institute of Technology, with a BS in "Fashion Merchandising Management." The career paths that my major leads to are fairly specific: generally you can go into retail buying, retail planning, product development, or store management (talking like madison ave flagstores, not managing the hot topic at the mall. you don't need to go to college for that). It is very niche and specific, but I knew what I wanted to do, and by choosing a very tailored major I was able to land an entry level retail planning position out of college with one of the largest American retailers, paying a fair amount higher than the average 2k12 college grad, according to google. As Crisp and myself have beaten into your head at this point, you really should have a career goal in mind when choosing your schooling, not a schooling goal in mind when choosing your career.