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Old 12-16-2012, 09:45 PM #232
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Very informative video. It taught me that gun crimes can't happen in gun-free zones, so we all have nothing to worry about.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:51 PM #233
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That video sure did show all those people who think gun free zones are the solution to mass shootings.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:52 PM #234
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Shooters usually pick significant areas within their sphere of life. THEIR school, a school local to them, their local theater. The "gun-free zone" thing is a red herring.

Also the Morgan Freeman thing is gun lobby bull****. There's no way we don't dig into who the shooters were and try to learn everything we can about them. We want to know if there is anything that could have been done. It's important that we find out if anything could have been done.

The media, increasingly these days, is largely other people. Social media ensures that even if the mainstream media doesn't say a peep about things, word will get out and spread. It's important that mainstream media DOES step up and make sure the TRUTH gets out more than the bull**** the impressionable masses fall for -- like this Morgan Freeman crap.

So that whole diatribe is horse**** intended to deflect public thinking away from specific agenda items.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:52 PM #235
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if we made the whole nation a gun free zone i'm pretty sure there would be a decline in gun violence, like in other nations.

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Old 12-16-2012, 09:54 PM #236
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if we made the whole nation a gun free zone i'm pretty sure there would be a decline in gun violence, like in other nations.

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Yep. The problem is not the gun free zone but the guns in the zone.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:54 PM #237
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:55 PM #238
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if we made the whole nation a gun free zone i'm pretty sure there would be a decline in gun violence, like in other nations.

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UK says otherwise.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:55 PM #239
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umm, UK has almost no gun violence...
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UK says otherwise.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:56 PM #241
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if we made the whole nation a gun free zone i'm pretty sure there would be a decline in gun violence, like in other nations.

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Right, just like mexico? What a safe place it must be there.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:00 PM #242
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UK says otherwise.
You aren't going far enough. They want to ban all private ownership of firearms.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:02 PM #243
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Actual gun free zones are extremely effective in stopping gun crime of all types. The most common and well-enforced gun-free zones are airports, and there is effectively zero gun crime in those zones.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:09 PM #244
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UK had a huge increase in gun crime about a decade after their ban which has just recently started abating.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:19 PM #245
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UK had a huge increase in gun crime about a decade after their ban which has just recently started abating.
No way that could happen. If you ban the guns, you get rid of all gun crime and violence.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...89-decade.html

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Old 12-16-2012, 10:22 PM #246
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No way that could happen. If you ban the guns, you get rid of all gun crime and violence.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...89-decade.html

See? Foolproof.
I'm all for guns but please don't quote me and link dailymail as your support. That's offensive.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:23 PM #247
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Right, just like mexico? What a safe place it must be there.
We're a bit more developed than Mexico.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:34 PM #248
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if we made the whole nation a gun free zone i'm pretty sure there would be a decline in gun violence, like in other nations.

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And let all other violence increase?

No thanks.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:40 PM #249
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UK had a huge increase in gun crime about a decade after their ban which has just recently started abating.
This is true but their gun crimes simply do not come near the amount we have, in any comparison. I am not advocating the abolishment of the second amendment and I am not pro gun control. But the fact is legislation and enforcement has an effect on gun crimes. Think about how rarely automatic weapons are used in crime, compared to cheap handguns. Gun control can, and often does work.

The problem here is that the mom was a safe target shooter who used guns legally for sport. Banning her from getting a weapon would be wrong, no matter how you cut it. It should have been locked up better, but the real issue here is one of mental health.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:41 PM #250
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How large is the US compared to the UK? You mean in the US? It's higher than you'd think.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:55 PM #251
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I'm all for guns but please don't quote me and link dailymail as your support. That's offensive.
What is wrong with DailyMail? It supported your post and is accurate in this regard.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:59 PM #252
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First it's from 2009 and second it's Dailymail, hardly journalism at its finest.
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