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Old 12-10-2012, 12:15 AM #1
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Why do people still use Autocockers?

Give me your reasons why you think people still use autocockers or why you still use your autococker.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:24 AM #2
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:36 AM #3
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What NightKreeper said.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:11 AM #4
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Some people like certain guns.

I know a guy that loves autocockers, he has a karni that is just out of this world.
I like spyders, even though my main is an axe I still use 2 of my 3 spyders from time to time.

And I have another spyder project I'm working on right now.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:25 AM #5
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Just as stated, nostalgia and some people just like certain markers.....

The gun did pretty much set the standard for paintball. Plus, well tuned autocockers shoot amazing. However, I have no desire to ever own one. The one I shot,shot amazing but felt like I was holding a damn RPG compared to my other markers.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:34 AM #6
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:24 AM #7
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As far as mech Cockers go, they are simply fun to shoot. No other gun has as much "personality" in its feel than a finely-built Cocker. You have to try one to see what I mean. Some of it, I suppose is nostalgia -- back in the day when Mags and Cockers were kings it used to be a matter of pride on how fast you could shoot one. No other guns compared in terms of ROF. They were not easy to shoot fast like today's "mouse click" electros. Once you practiced, you could do 10-11 bps. I can still do that today, though I've moved on to an electro as my main gun. Some people can't even walk electros that fast...

The other part is they are "just right" for a lot of situations. I use mine a great deal in woodsball where the rof of an electro is unwarranted yet the distances and/or undergrowth make using a pump gun a bit too much of a challenge.

As far as electronic Cockers go -- I use mine because it shoots better (smoother, quieter, and more consistent) than anything else I've ever shot. (That includes DMs, Shockers and other spool valve guns). I know I'm opening a can of worms with a statement like that, and no doubt many will doubt it, having never tried an MQ'd Cocker. But everyone I've handed my gun to has said something to the effect of "Oh my gaaaawd!"
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:46 AM #8
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My stock answer to this one is "classy people will always shoot classy guns".

More seriously, I've had my Cocker since 2005. Same configuration, very little has changed with it. I know the gun, what it will do, what it won't do, its quirks and strengths, the feel when it's all going right... or wrong. I'm comfortable with it, and it does everything I want a mechanical gun to do.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:21 PM #9
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I go out and play almost every weekend and i honestly shoot more people out with a cocker than my dm. If you have a perfectly timed cocker it shoots so smooth and flawless with precision accuracy that started the closed bolt era. Cockers are great to get better because if u can make ur shot count with 1 or 2 shots then u better be able to sprayn with ego or luxe
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:38 AM #10
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It's great to have for really anything. If it rains, I can't use my Marq, so it's nice to switch to a mechanical cocker. Or if you wanted to match yourself to what walk on groups are using firepower wise, then having a nice high end gun, a mechanical, and a pump is beautiful. Plus something like a cocker these days is something that you'll probably know inside and out. It's nice to have that kind of reliability.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:31 AM #11
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Autocockers were the choppers of paintball. No autococker looked the same, there were so many different aftermarket bodies and parts to choose from. This was until the smart parts lawsuits kicked off a litigation spree that eventually led to WGP also suing. My autococker body today is extremely rare. When newbies see it they think it is more expensive than it is worth.

I was ahead of curve and bought the lightest aluminum mini-cocker body I could find, transferred the parts of my STO to the Jackal body, then I attached an eblade. I thought my marker was heavier than everyone else's; but when some people ask to shoot it currently, they say it's lighter than their markers. I tried to buy a lowrise feed before people knew much about their marker profile crawling in the snake. I knew I needed the smallest marker possible to shoot in more possible angles in the snake. So I bought an autococker body that takes angel feedneck threads. I was the first to say drop forwards were ridiculous in my neighborhood.

Maybe some people like the attention it gives them when newbies say, "WTF that gun looks scary!" My marker also doesn't look like a nerfgun. I don't think markers today look all that intimidating. When I see an ego, I only think that it is something to go up against because I know what it is. But when people see my autococker, they think it's going to kill them.

If you know how to time a mech autococker, it is extremely reliable. That being said I think the next marker I will buy is an etek or an ego. It almost functions the same way as an electronic autococker but the parts are neatly internalized. With the mech setup, I played a 24 hour scenario game with crap paint. Everyone else's marker became a ball shredder, but my autococker did not break a single ball.

It's also just a marker I know. There are ways to time a mech autococker in such a way to make it impossible to short stroke. When I time people's autocockers they say it's like I put a new marker in their hands. I've been using the same marker for 12 years. I know I need to sell it and get with the times though. There are cheap markers under $400 that perform better than the $1500 I put into my autococker. I haven't tried the MQ valve though.

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Old 12-11-2012, 08:18 AM #12
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. But when people see my autococker, they think it's going to kill them.
I haven't tried the MQ valve though.


Yes, indeed that's what people think when they see this. And they'd be correct. As for the MQ valve, you owe it to yourself to try one out. Tuned for 15bps max and a low Lpr setting this thing is smooth as butter; you can't even feel it shooting. People can't hear me shooting either...
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:04 PM #13
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If it shoots well and has no issues, there's not much reason to replace it unless they like new shinies or have too much monies to spend.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:28 PM #14
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I shoot and own cockers simply because they are a great gun. Everyone knows what they are and do not look like any other gun on the market. I can take my ans down to bare bones, put it back together and it'll sing. Not another gun on the market is softer on paint in my opinion.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:58 PM #15
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It's a hobby; do what's fun.

Me, I enjoy shooting markers with soul... Guns that embody the spirit and passion of paintball. With that said, it's probably no surprise that I have a handful of tasty old 'cockers in the stable...
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:50 PM #16
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There's one very simple reason that people use Autocockers to play paintball...

When you pull the trigger, a paintball flies out of it.

Anything that does that, well someone will want to use it on the field.
Heck, I've been known to use a giant dinosaur of a blowback made in 1992 on the field from time to time.

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There's one very simple reason that people use Autocockers to play paintball...

When you pull the trigger, a paintball flies out of it.

Anything that does that, well someone will want to use it on the field.
Heck, I've been known to use a giant dinosaur of a blowback made in 1992 on the field from time to time.

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I think a lot of the lasting appeal is that it's just fun to watch the huge chunk of metal moving around next to your face.
Having no external moving parts might make today's spool-valved guns easier (and safer) to use, but it also makes shooting them something of a sterile experience.
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I think a lot of the lasting appeal is that it's just fun to watch the huge chunk of metal moving around next to your face.
Having no external moving parts might make today's spool-valved guns easier (and safer) to use, but it also makes shooting them something of a sterile experience.
Nailed it broseph.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:09 PM #20
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That and the noise. Cockers sound like nothing else
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:10 PM #21
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Yeah, the sound is what I always loved about them. I miss my cockers.
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