Find fields & stores near you!
Find fields and stores
Zipcode
PbNation News
PbNation News
Community Focus
Community Focus

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-06-2012, 01:16 PM #1
$karnivor2$
 
 
$karnivor2$'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Appraise My Blue/Gold Karnivor, Red/White Karnivor, and Realtree Cammo Black Magic!

Hey guys I have a few guns I have collected over the past few years which I believe to be on the more rare side of autocockers. I just want your opinion positive or negative on the guns, what you like/don't like about them etc. Also What do you think these guns are worth each. Thank you. PS. The guns are much cleaner and better looking in person I just threw together some quick shots with a cheap digital camera. Will upload better pics soon!

1.)First up is my 05 Red/White Karnivor. I am almost positive this is the only Karnivor in this color combination as I did the accenting. Because it is the only one like it let me know what you guys think.







2.) Second up is my 05 Blue and Gold Karnivor. I have only seen three of these guns factory in this color combination when looking through the forums here and online so I have no clue how many were made or what they are worth. Any insight would be appreciated.







3.) Last is my 06 Realtree Cammo Black Magic. Now I know this was a limited addition run done by WGP but I have no clue how many were made. Also the select fire frame was a poor decision on their part so I had it modified to fit ego buttons and a tadao yakuza OLED board in it. This thing is fast. Let me know what knowledge you have of this gun along with what you think the value is of it after everything. Thanks




$karnivor2$ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sponsored Links Remove Advertisement
Advertisement
Old 12-06-2012, 01:25 PM #2
Castro #66
Not a Moderator*
 
Castro #66's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Annual Supporting Member
Castro #66 is a Moderator
Castro #66 is a Supporting Member
Castro #66 is playing at Living Legends VII
Castro #66 supports Bob Gurnsey
Castro #66 is one of the top 500 posters on PbNation
Castro #66 is Legendary
Castro #66 is attending Decay of Nations VII
Camo gun's worth the spare keys and Jimmy John's Gift Card in the console of my car. Ship first?


About $400 on either Karni, about the same on the BM. Upgrades don't do a lot for value, usually.
__________________
Certified Master Airsmith
Airsmithing & 3rd Party Shipping - PM for details
Can't we all just play Paintball?



Last edited by Castro #66 : 12-06-2012 at 01:27 PM.
Castro #66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2012, 02:07 PM #3
ExoticFart
 
 
ExoticFart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Illinois
ExoticFart is playing at Living Legends V
ExoticFart owns a Planet Eclipse Ego
ExoticFart supports Team VICIOUS
ExoticFart supports DLX Technology
Ill give you 350 on any of the Karnivors.
ExoticFart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2012, 02:44 PM #4
$karnivor2$
 
 
$karnivor2$'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Haha I love jimmy johns and thanks man. No thanks Exotic. Keep the info coming guys!
$karnivor2$ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2012, 02:54 PM #5
Darkapollo
 
 
Darkapollo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New Cumberland, PA
E2 Karni 450-550
Black Magic 350
__________________
Darkapollo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2012, 05:01 PM #6
dbkid0486
 
 
dbkid0486's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New Jersey
Annual Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkapollo View Post
E2 Karni 450-550
Black Magic 350
red/white probably less due to the non-factory anno.
__________________
Feedback

ClosedBoltBallers
dbkid0486 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2012, 05:24 PM #7
ExoticFart
 
 
ExoticFart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Illinois
ExoticFart is playing at Living Legends V
ExoticFart owns a Planet Eclipse Ego
ExoticFart supports Team VICIOUS
ExoticFart supports DLX Technology
message me.

Last edited by ExoticFart : 12-06-2012 at 05:35 PM.
ExoticFart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2012, 07:14 PM #8
ExoticFart
 
 
ExoticFart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Illinois
ExoticFart is playing at Living Legends V
ExoticFart owns a Planet Eclipse Ego
ExoticFart supports Team VICIOUS
ExoticFart supports DLX Technology
Text me at 224 374 6710.
ExoticFart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2012, 07:17 PM #9
$karnivor2$
 
 
$karnivor2$'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
I messaged you bro. 450 seems low for the blue and gold anno since it is factory. Can you really pick one up for that price? How many of these things were made with this color combo. I know they also made purple and gold in a small number and I have seen a few of those go for 600+.
$karnivor2$ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2012, 09:10 PM #10
Darkapollo
 
 
Darkapollo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New Cumberland, PA
Its typical price for an E2 Karni.
__________________
Darkapollo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2012, 10:20 PM #11
$karnivor2$
 
 
$karnivor2$'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Ok yea most regular e2 karnivors are selling for 425-500. I am curious as to what the blue and gold karnivor is worth over that value.
$karnivor2$ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2012, 07:54 AM #12
Castro #66
Not a Moderator*
 
Castro #66's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Annual Supporting Member
Castro #66 is a Moderator
Castro #66 is a Supporting Member
Castro #66 is playing at Living Legends VII
Castro #66 supports Bob Gurnsey
Castro #66 is one of the top 500 posters on PbNation
Castro #66 is Legendary
Castro #66 is attending Decay of Nations VII
That's up to the buyer to decide. You can ask whatever you want, but "non-standard" ano doesn't often retain much more value in this industry.
__________________
Certified Master Airsmith
Airsmithing & 3rd Party Shipping - PM for details
Can't we all just play Paintball?


Castro #66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2012, 09:37 AM #13
Darkapollo
 
 
Darkapollo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New Cumberland, PA
People who buy Karni are not typically the same type who go ape sh!t over a rare anno like on an Ego.
If a buyer thinks it is worth $600 than you can get $600. Limited edition or 'rare' anno doesnt mean much in the cocker world.
That is why you see JOLE going for little more than an E2 Karni.. And they are numbered Limited Edition guns.
I had a certified 1 of 1 race gun. It was certified by the guy who had the 12 bodies milled for the race guns USA team. Mine was the only one lasered. It wasnt worth more than any other gun. It sold for $250.
The only 'rare gun' anno are going to be some of the Belsales (life saver Evo) and Eclipse DCx guns (blood red 1, Pink Lady 50 total, blue to black 2, and red to black 5)
Karni made by the thousands, even if it was the only 'factory' anno isnt worth much more than a regular Karni if at all. You want a valuable Karni? Find one of the limited undrilled bodies..
__________________

Last edited by Darkapollo : 12-07-2012 at 09:43 AM.
Darkapollo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2012, 10:29 AM #14
dbkid0486
 
 
dbkid0486's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New Jersey
Annual Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkapollo View Post
You want a valuable Karni? Find one of the limited undrilled bodies..
cough cough cough cough

not to thread jack but since it was brought up, what would one of those be worth? If my "friend" just happened to have one, what do you think "he" could get for it?
__________________
Feedback

ClosedBoltBallers
dbkid0486 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2012, 10:56 AM #15
$karnivor2$
 
 
$karnivor2$'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Thanks guys and feel free to post pics if you want I don't mind dbkid
$karnivor2$ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2012, 01:02 PM #16
Darkapollo
 
 
Darkapollo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New Cumberland, PA
DB, I have seen the virgin bodys asking $300..
__________________
Darkapollo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2012, 01:06 PM #17
STLOutlawz
 
 
STLOutlawz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Belleville, IL
STLOutlawz plays in the PSP
STLOutlawz owns a Planet Eclipse Ego
STLOutlawz plays in the APPA D4 division
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkapollo
DB, I have seen the virgin bodys asking $300..
Lol non drilled, I see what you did there.

I would pay 300 for a non drilled Karni in a heart beat.
__________________
Freestyle
Fat Ballers Club yo!
STLOutlawz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2012, 02:09 PM #18
$karnivor2$
 
 
$karnivor2$'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkapollo View Post
That is why you see JOLE going for little more than an E2 Karni.. And they are numbered Limited Edition guns.
I had a v2 Jeff Orr LE Autococker which was red #27 of 50. I sold it awhile back because it wasn't as refined as the karnivor is. What I mean by that is the milling on the karnivor is extremely advanced especially for the time. They engineered an internal cocking system (I.C.S) to hide the cocking rod. The dust and polished body on a karnivor is also a unique feature. The solenoid housing was made for the karnivor which gives a more organized look to the tubing at the front of the gun. Finally the regulor bent back in along with the reg itself are unique to the karnivor only. While The Jeff Orr is a mid-blocked gun, which is slightly smoother than the karnivor, the look of the gun is lacking and not much different from a black magic with e2 parts thrown on it. They did upgrade the ram to the mp4 which is good but the front solenoid housing is a plain worr housing and there is nothing truly unique to it. While they made many karnivors they still in my mind and many others are the coolest looking autocockers ever built. Here's a few cellphone pics of my old jeff orr.



$karnivor2$ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2012, 02:18 PM #19
dbkid0486
 
 
dbkid0486's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New Jersey
Annual Supporting Member
The VF Tactical also had the reversed angled frontblock and I find midblocks and halfblocks to not be anywhere near as smooth as a full block autococker.
__________________
Feedback

ClosedBoltBallers

Last edited by dbkid0486 : 12-07-2012 at 02:21 PM.
dbkid0486 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2012, 02:18 PM #20
$karnivor2$
 
 
$karnivor2$'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Also the "fang" trigger, twisting feedneck, and the chrome solenoid wire tube are unique to the karnivor. The jeff orr has some karnivor parts thrown on it but nothing is refined about the gun at all. The solenoid wire is still visible and the air tubes are all coming from the top of the solenoid and rubbing on the barrel. Those are a few reasons why I feel a rarer karnivor may bring more interest than a gun designed by the son of Bud Orr rather than Bud Orr himself such as the karnivor.
$karnivor2$ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2012, 02:23 PM #21
$karnivor2$
 
 
$karnivor2$'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbkid0486 View Post
The VF Tactical also had the reversed angled frontblock and I find midblocks and halfblocks to not be anywhere near as smooth as a full block autococker.
The vertical feed autococker body came out in 03 I think but the VF tactical came out in 05-06 with that reverse angled reg right before WGP sold to JT.
$karnivor2$ is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
Forum Jump