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Old 12-06-2012, 04:10 AM #1
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G6r bolt

Hi,

Bought a used g6r that came with a tech-t hush bolt. Im thinking of getting the premium pillow bolt. But what differenceses could I expect?

I know about the cost and thats not the issue, just want to know why the other buyers bought it.

Is it the sound signature and the look only? Or that it makes it smoother?

(I apologize if my english are bad, not my language)
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:35 AM #2
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Best I can tell, the average user may be able to lower the LPR a little bit.

People who shoot the premium high end paint that is super brittle were having issues with the stock bolt breaking paint, so BLASt came up with this new bolt
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:51 AM #3
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With the Hush bolt you will see around a 10 fps increase (generally). This is partially due to the tighter fit of the bolt to the body and partially due to the tighter O-rings included in the kit. The Hush bolt also has a slightly different way of channeling air than the stock bolt and this combined with the venture tend to give it a slightly different sound signature which many consider quieter (I obviously haven't measures it). The FPS increase will let you reduce you HPR a little bit and potentially increase your efficiency.

The Premium Bolt is a little bit heavier. This design allows it to open the valve with less pressure on the lpr and also (I believe) leaves it open just slightly longer as it takes a little more shove to get the bolt to return. The added mass will allow you to drop both your lpr and hpr some. This should allow for a slightly smoother/quieter shot.

Personallly I don't think either bolt is a must have (I also haven't been able to personally test the Premium yet). Each offer some small benefits at a fairly hefty price point.

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Old 12-06-2012, 06:53 AM #4
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Thanks for your answers! This helps a lot, I look forward to hear more. Even personal findings would help.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:08 AM #5
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http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...premium+ bolt

No hush bolt in the comparison but you know what you can expect with premium vs other BLAST bolts
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:38 PM #6
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With the Hush bolt you will see around a 10 fps increase. This is partially due to the tighter fit of the bolt to the body and partially due to the tighter O-rings included in the kit. The Hush bolt also has a slightly different way of channeling air than the stock bolt and this combined with the venture tend to give it a slightly different sound signature which many consider quieter (I obviously haven't measures it). The FPS increase will let you reduce you HPR a little bit and potentially increase your efficiency.

The Premium Bolt is a little bit heavier. This design allows it to open the valve with less pressure on the lpr and also (I believe) leaves it open just slightly longer as it takes a little more shove to get the bolt to return. The added mass will allow you to drop both your lpr and hpr some. This should allow for a slightly smoother/quieter shot.

Personallly I don't think either bolt is a must have (I also haven't been able to personally test the Premium yet). Each offer some small benefits at a fairly hefty price point.

I have both bolts, the TechT bolt does not increase FPS it actually decreases FPS by about 15, that is after I changed the orings to the bigger ones that fit tighter. Previously there was about a 30 FPS difference. Not much of a sound signature difference. The premium bolt is better IMO maybe not worth 100 dollars but better than the TECT hush bolt.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:59 PM #7
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You can now get the premium bolt at $75, it just doesn't come with the low profile bolt pin.
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:13 PM #9
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I have both bolts, the TechT bolt does not increase FPS it actually decreases FPS by about 15, that is after I changed the orings to the bigger ones that fit tighter. Previously there was about a 30 FPS difference. Not much of a sound signature difference. The premium bolt is better IMO maybe not worth 100 dollars but better than the TECT hush bolt.
The FPS difference with the Hush bolt will vary depending on the tolerances of the top tube. Many of the original G6Rs varied slightly from front half to back half and most G6Rs also vary from one another slightly in terms of the bore of that top tube. If you have a body with a tighter top tube bore, I could see how the Hush bolt could actually decrease velocity. For my G6R this simply wasn't the case.

My G6R is old (purchased about a week or two after release) and my front and rear half internal dimensions also do not match perfectly. For me in my testing I found it increased my FPS with the larger O-rings included in the kit and that those o-rings placed on the stock bolt also increased my fps. YMMV however for me the Hush bolt is a tighter fit both in bolt dimension and then even more so with the larger included O-rings and the combination of both does yield me higher fps. I stand by my statement now as I did with my original Hush bolt review, that the O-rings are above and beyond the larger contributing factor to the fps gain. The tighter O-rings can also negatively effect your shot to shot consistency if your specific G6R doesn't require larger O-rings (hence some testing data by other users). Overall the o-ring size and bolt dimensions on the original stock bolt provide optimum consistency with all G6R bodies which is probably why Bob made them the way they did.

Not to compare the Premium bolt to the Hush bolt but from what I am reading, I tend to tentatively agree with you that the Premium Pillow is probably the better performing bolt (although I haven't gotten to use it yet). I like the fact that the added inertia allows you to run some lower pressures. This could help further improve paint handling which is always a good thing. I will also edit my original post to say "generally" since obviously my experience isn't the case with every user.

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