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Old 12-03-2012, 04:16 PM #1
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Looking to pick up a new gun. need help

I got into the sport about 2 years ago and really enjoy it. i have a dm8 wit a virtue oled board. i been think about picking up a new gun.
Im planing on playin in tournaments this summer.
what would be a good gun wit low maintenance. and has the same barrel thread as my dm since i just picked up a barrel kit.
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Ego. Don't ask questions just get an ego newer than 07
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Ego. Don't ask questions just get an ego newer than 07
Worst response i've seen in a long time...



What things are turning you off / getting bored with on the DM8? What is your price range? What are you looking for in a gun in terms of efficiency/ shot quality/ sound signature?
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Price range 500 more if its a better gun. Somethings good on air shoots great not hard to work on.
The dm8 been good only played wit ut 4 5 times and its been lil problems orings air leaks now the eye pipe. I dodnt know since i tested the first time wit a rotor was that the problem. Also i live in ny and its cold already and i been told dms r the worst in the cold
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Well, a lot of guns have their downfalls in the cold. DM's use dow 33 lube which can get thicker in the cold and cause bolt stick. Where as even Ego's have troubles in the cold by being rough on paint and causing chops. But again, the cold is gunna make a lot of guns have issues.... spools and inline-poppets use dow33 lube, so some bolt stick can occur.

That being said, You should look into the Axe (used or new), used Macdev Droid/DX/VX's, Older Ego's (07's-09's), Bob Long V1 Vics. All are solid guns with decent to good efficiency (vics and ego's will have the best).
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Price range 500 more if its a better gun. Somethings good on air shoots great not hard to work on.
The dm8 been good only played wit ut 4 5 times and its been lil problems orings air leaks now the eye pipe. I dodnt know since i tested the first time wit a rotor was that the problem. Also i live in ny and its cold already and i been told dms r the worst in the cold

My point exactly.

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-very effeicent (better than dye by far)
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-wont leak out of an eye pipe :p
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Worst response i've seen in a long time...

What things are turning you off / getting bored with on the DM8? What is your price range? What are you looking for in a gun in terms of efficiency/ shot quality/ sound signature?
So your saying a Dm is more reliable than an Ego? Haha

Egos are way more reliable. More effeicent. And they even shoot amazing.

But what am I talking about... You have a thread yourself on how good your 08 shoots! Hehe...


That has got to be the most untrue thing on this thread so far...
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So your saying a Dm is more reliable than an Ego? Haha

Egos are way more reliable. More effeicent. And they even shoot amazing.

But what am I talking about... You have a thread yourself on how good your 08 shoots! Hehe...


That has got to be the most untrue thing on this thread so far...
Where did i even say that?

Giving someone a respone of "get XXX gun." is possibly the worst response in the history of suggestions on PBnation... its super vague and gives no information or reasoning whatsoever.

And yes, a DM can be just as reliable as an Ego.

Everything you just said about the ego is completely subjective. Shoots amazing? Compared to what? Every gun has its downfall.... Ego's are not soft on paint, have a loud shot, tons of kick and are not as efficient as something like a G6R or Victory.

I have a thread saying i love my Ego8... its got great colors, and i have a lot of history with it. But to honest, i rarely choose it to play in tournaments with.
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Where did i even say that?

Giving someone a respone of "get XXX gun." is possibly the worst response in the history of suggestions on PBnation... its super vague and gives no information or reasoning whatsoever.

And yes, a DM can be just as reliable as an Ego.
Your thread for your Ego 08 for sale.

Where you said, "I'm on the fence with this one as it shoots wonderfully and i know i probably wont see another one again for a long time. I'm in no rush to let go of it."

Elaborate?
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Your thread for your Ego 08 for sale.

Where you said, "I'm on the fence with this one as it shoots wonderfully and i know i probably wont see another one again for a long time. I'm in no rush to let go of it."

Elaborate?
Just because i say soemthing shoots wonderfully doesnt mean its a nicer shot than my G6R, any of my DM's, or even my rail for that matter....Clearly you're taking things out of context.
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My point exactly.

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-wont leak out of an eye pipe :p
1.So a g6r, Alien invasion, Vanguard Creed arent any easier? Furthermore, how is taking the the 4 rotations of an allen wrench to get the back cap off a DM, removing the bolt (2 seconds), unscrewing the can from the tail (5 seconds), removing the front o-ring from the bolt (3 seconds), applying lube to the bolt rings (5 seconds), applying lube to the can and tail o-rings (5 more seconds), then putting it all back together (1 minute) hard to do? If you dont have 5 minutes after every few cases of paint to lube your marker, you shouldnt even be playing paintball.

2.OBVIOUSLY its more efficient than a spool valve marker....

3.How is an ego any more reliable than any other gun? If you know what you're doing and take care of your marker, it will treat you well... I've had issues with my Ego's like FSDO, and chops due to being tough on paint.

4.What about QEV tears on the Ego8? The eye pipe has a purpose, and it works quite well... i have yet to have an issue with my eye pipe in my DM10 or Rail. And neither have I had any issues with the QEV's in my Ego8's.... which have a purpose as well. Its all about how you treat your gun and the knowledge you have with it.

Please continue to try and tell me how the Ego is the best out there and that he should never consider any other gun.
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1.So a g6r, Alien invasion, Vanguard Creed arent any easier? Furthermore, how is taking the the 4 rotations of an allen wrench to get the back cap off a DM, removing the bolt (2 seconds), unscrewing the can from the tail (5 seconds), removing the front o-ring from the bolt (3 seconds), applying lube to the bolt rings (5 seconds), applying lube to the can and tail o-rings (5 more seconds), then putting it all back together (1 minute) hard to do? If you dont have 5 minutes after every few cases of paint to lube your marker, you shouldnt even be playing paintball.

2.OBVIOUSLY its more efficient than a spool valve marker....

3.How is an ego any more reliable than any other gun? If you know what you're doing and take care of your marker, it will treat you well... I've had issues with my Ego's like FSDO, and chops due to being tough on paint.

4.What about QEV tears on the Ego8? The eye pipe has a purpose, and it works quite well... i have yet to have an issue with my eye pipe in my DM10 or Rail. And neither have I had any issues with the QEV's in my Ego8's.... which have a purpose as well. Its all about how you treat your gun and the knowledge you have with it.

Please continue to try and tell me how the Ego is the best out there and that he should never consider any other gun.
I'm just going off the small bit of info be have us.

1. He wants something low maintainence.

( ego-take bolt out, wipe, (take apart reg tooless, super easy, take zick ram out is tooless)

2. If he's chops paint with the ego (7-11), he can get either the Kush bolt or Cure4. Most paint chops in any weather is due to paint selection.

3. He wants something different then his DM8, (at least I believe) in which case, out of all the companies on the market, from being the owner of yes all these, (Luxe, Dm, Eclipse, geo & ego, Victory, axe, etc..) I have to go with Planet Eclipse being the company, with the best guns on the market. This is from my personal expierience. Not saying those guns weren't good, or anything like that, just saying out of them, the ones that offered no errors/problems/anything, were my Etek3, Ego10, and Geo+.

So yes OP, pick what you want, I'm just saying my advice (my opinion) is to go with anything Planet Eclipse. Preferably 08 or newer.
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I'm just going off the small bit of info be have us.

1. He wants something low maintainence.

( ego-take bolt out, wipe, (take apart reg tooless, super easy, take zick ram out is tooless)

2. If he's chops paint with the ego (7-11), he can get either the Kush bolt or Cure4. Most paint chops in any weather is due to paint selection.

3. He wants something different then his DM8, (at least I believe) in which case, out of all the companies on the market, from being the owner of yes all these, (Luxe, Dm, Eclipse, geo & ego, Victory, axe, etc..) I have to go with Planet Eclipse being the company, with the best guns on the market. This is from my personal expierience. Not saying those guns weren't good, or anything like that, just saying out of them, the ones that offered no errors/problems/anything, were my Etek3, Ego10, and Geo+.

So yes OP, pick what you want, I'm just saying my advice (my opinion) is to go with anything Planet Eclipse. Preferably 08 or newer.
It took me all of that writing just to get you to make a respectable response... I'm proud of you (no sarcasm)

Next time, if you're going to suggest a marker, do what you just did and give your opinion and back it up with actual reasons and other information in order to give the OP a good idea of why he/she should choose that particular marker.

Saying "buy an ego. nuff said" to someone who is trying to find a good marker for themselves doesnt help the OP one bit. Have you ever gone out and bought a car because someone said to you, "XXX car is the best, go get it." Chances are no, you do research and listen to various opinions and keep your options open to find the right car for you.
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Wat would be the pros n cons of a 08 ego n a 11 ego
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It took me all of that writing just to get you to make a respectable response... I'm proud of you (no sarcasm)

Next time, if you're going to suggest a marker, do what you just did and give your opinion and back it up with actual reasons and other information in order to give the OP a good idea of why he/she should choose that particular marker.

Saying "buy an ego. nuff said" to someone who is trying to find a good marker for themselves doesnt help the OP one bit. Have you ever gone out and bought a car because someone said to you, "XXX car is the best, go get it." Chances are no, you do research and listen to various opinions and keep your options open to find the right car for you.
I just wanted to save time from typing all this

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Wat would be the pros n cons of a 08 ego n a 11 ego
Ego 08- Qevs ripping
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hard to find, but a little
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Ego 11-little loud


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Ego8 - Fastest cycling ego made because of the QEV block. The QEV block provides a faster and shorter passage for entering and escaping gasses, which allow faster rate of fire.
Pros -
Highest bps rate of fire
First Ego to feature the Zick kit
Dual QEV's built into a QEV block
New LCD compared to the 7 making it easier to read in sunlight, and the 4.0 firmware

Cons -
QEVs can tear... although this is only if you cannot properly tune your marker. Stock settings should keep your QEV's safe for quite some time.. I've had my first Ego8 for 3 years without issues to the QEV's
Any part that is needed to keep the gun working can be found without problems. Things like Frame jewels... are next to impossible to find... but again, they arent needed for the gun to work... just cosmetic.
Screens pixels can die... in which you'd have to buy a new board for at or more than 120$... which sucks. (Again, mine dont have this issue yet)
The older the ego's are, the rougher they are on paint.

Ever since the Ego 8, PE went in a different direction and started slowing down Ego's to make them softer on paint and provide a nicer shot.

This began with the 9, by removing the QEV block. They also adjusted the Rammer a few degrees on an incline making the ergo a bit different. Some like it, some dont. The trigger guard was also enlarged. Within months of the Ego9 release, PE realized they made a mistake in the design of the marker... it shot fine, but had way too much kick for their liking and the rammer would put a lot of strain on the rammer bumper o-ring. They introduced the Plank kit... which at first they were giving out to Ego9 owners for a few months. This later was stopped and people could purchase the kit from various websites and stores. Now, the plank kits are typically out of stock and come up on Ebay from time to time.
Both ego 8 and 9 feature the Zick and Cure2.

The Ego Ten's main selling point is a longer cycle. This reduces potential rate of fire. (still able to reach 28+ BPS). The advantage is that it allows more consistency from shot to shot, and can be used with more fragile paint as well as much less recoil and a smoother shot. It comes standard with the Zick 2 Rammer and the Cure 3+ bolt stock, as well as an improved solenoid. It also includes many other parts improved upon from previous models such as the regulator, the hpr (high pressure regulator) and the lpr (low pressure regulator). The board was redone as well as a few other minor parts. The screen on the ego10 is 92% bigger than earlier models.

Ego 11 wasnt a huge difference from the 10. It came with the shaft 4 barrel as opposed to the shaft 3... difference being the shaft 4 has a longer barrel back because its got male threading on either side. It also has a solenoid that can adjust the bolt forward and return speed. Ego11 is the first ego that had the POPS asa instead of the OOPS. Ego 11 also has USB compatibility.

All Ego's will be loud... I personally think 5/6's and a 9 without the plank kit are some of the loudest made. But generally, they are all loud markers.

The only true way to quiet them down is underboring. I dont care what bolt you install, whether it be a pooty cure or a hush bolt, its not going to make a difference. It may change the sound signature slightly, but the decibels will be the same.
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My point exactly.

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-wont leak out of an eye pipe :p
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Ego 08- Qevs ripping
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Ego 11-little loud


I will edit this when peacob reminds me of more haha
For an ego fanboy you have some pretty bad ideas. I prefer the 07 over the 08 because you can do a banjo mod and remove the QEVs entirely. http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2882283

Parts are super easy to find:
http://paintballshowcase.com/genuineeclipseparts.aspx

And... by a little loud you actually mean that it is basically a paintball cannon. 07 and 08s are some of the loudest paintball guns out there. Your statement about the easiest maintenance is ridiculous because I can maintain most high ends without a tool, yet the ego requires one... not the easiest.
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For an ego fanboy you have some pretty bad ideas. I prefer the 07 over the 08 because you can do a banjo mod and remove the QEVs entirely. http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2882283

Parts are super easy to find:
http://paintballshowcase.com/genuineeclipseparts.aspx

And... by a little loud you actually mean that it is basically a paintball cannon. 07 and 08s are some of the loudest paintball guns out there. Your statement about the easiest maintenance is ridiculous because I can maintain most high ends without a tool, yet the ego requires one... not the easiest.
Which tool?
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honestly I'd go with an axe.. I've owned ego's Geo's luxe's, axes and so on.. and for the price you really can't beat an axe in my opinion. spend 400$ on an axe which is cocker threaded, make sure it comes with upgraded bolt, and nano feedneck. axes take little to no maintenance, shoot very smooth, and are workhorses. same thing with a geo/ego I prefer guns that shoot smooth though.. egos get better air, but I would much rather shoot a geo/axe due to it being smoother. and they are just as reliable as an ego and easy to maintain as an ego
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:18 PM #21
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i been reading people talkin about the g6r how r thos on air and paint.

if i can pick up a nice high end gun thats soft on paint good on air. can be upgraded if wanted and has cocker thread
im not sure if it matters to me if its loud or not. would that be a problem in speedball.
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