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12-01-2012, 09:00 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Canada
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why do people hate on g4's?
I think they're great for the price. why do people not like them?
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12-01-2012, 09:01 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Sebastopol,ca
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they have bolt stick, from my experience not reliable right out of the box
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12-01-2012, 09:01 PM
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Lot of people had a bolt stick problem right out of the box and did not know how to deal with it.
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12-01-2012, 09:31 PM
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Up the Irons
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Michigan
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because the factory lube on them was junk and made them not work, then noobs would watch the tech pb video and mike would tell them to use baby oil on the bolt which made them run even worse. so as you can imagine, a bunch of noobs with g4s are frustrated because their gun does not work. word gets out that they "dont work" and then they have a bad name
ALL BECAUSE PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW HOW TO GREASE THEIR GUN PROPERLY.
cool right?
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12-01-2012, 09:36 PM
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The macroline fittings aren't too great either. Cheap to replace though.
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12-02-2012, 01:18 AM
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20% more *****in
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Rice Lake, WI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by firefoxx04
because the factory lube on them was junk and made them not work, then noobs would watch the tech pb video and mike would tell them to use baby oil on the bolt which made them run even worse. so as you can imagine, a bunch of noobs with g4s are frustrated because their gun does not work. word gets out that they "dont work" and then they have a bad name
ALL BECAUSE PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW HOW TO GREASE THEIR GUN PROPERLY.
cool right?
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It's funny because baby oil works for that first lubing....
The point of the baby oil was to use it if you didn't completely clean out that DP40 **** because the baby oil thins out grease pretty well.
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12-02-2012, 07:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aresfiend
It's funny because baby oil works for that first lubing....
The point of the baby oil was to use it if you didn't completely clean out that DP40 **** because the baby oil thins out grease pretty well.
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Yeah but why not some triflow or real paintball oil? |
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12-02-2012, 07:57 AM
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Up the Irons
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Michigan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aresfiend
It's funny because baby oil works for that first lubing....
The point of the baby oil was to use it if you didn't completely clean out that DP40 **** because the baby oil thins out grease pretty well.
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i cant count on two hands the amount of people who have personally come to me through PM or in person with a G4 or spec r that absolutely does not work AFTER they used the baby oil. I tell them to use some real grease like violent pb jelly or lurker lube and BAM the gun is working great.
The things I suggest to people are tried and true, i dont try something with a gun, think it works and then tell a **** ton of my subscribers that it works without testing it properly. Its not hard to open a DP noid and do it right the first time.
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12-02-2012, 07:59 AM
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Up the Irons
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Michigan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GraniteGargoyle
Yeah but why not some triflow or real paintball oil?
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thats not the point.
1) baby oil wont stay on the bolt long enough for 2 matches (baby oil or try flow, does not matter)
2) baby oil will do the same thing to the noid, run it dry!
3) the regulator wont be as consistent.
Would you run your car on the wrong oil or NO OIL? No, you use the proper oil and in the case of DP guns, that would be top of the line paintball grease that stays where you put it. Bolt orings will wear down 10x faster after that oil gets shot down the barrel. Just like a piston ring with no oil, FRIED.
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12-02-2012, 11:35 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: New Jersey
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people complain because of the bolt stick which is easy to fix by just removing the stock lube and using something like gun sav, although I did use the DP-40 without a problem like twice I switched to the gun sav to be safe and didnt have a problem. the macroline usually leaks when i first put air in it but i wiggle the line for 30 seconds and its good. Its not a big enough annoyance for me to change lol. All in all I love my G4 and so far hasent given me any problems. But if you were to buy new I would look into the G5 after people have used it and reviews are out, it looks good and from my experience with DP should shoot well.
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12-02-2012, 01:12 PM
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#12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by firefoxx04
thats not the point.
1) baby oil wont stay on the bolt long enough for 2 matches (baby oil or try flow, does not matter)
2) baby oil will do the same thing to the noid, run it dry!
3) the regulator wont be as consistent.
Would you run your car on the wrong oil or NO OIL? No, you use the proper oil and in the case of DP guns, that would be top of the line paintball grease that stays where you put it. Bolt orings will wear down 10x faster after that oil gets shot down the barrel. Just like a piston ring with no oil, FRIED.
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12-02-2012, 01:14 PM
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Serious question: The manual for the Proton says to put a few drops of oil in the ASA and then air it up for maintenance. Should I just be pulling the bolt and lubing like a G3?
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12-02-2012, 01:32 PM
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#14
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www.YetiPB.com
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Washington DC
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No. The noids react to oil differently
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12-02-2012, 03:50 PM
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Up the Irons
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Michigan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GraniteGargoyle
Serious question: The manual for the Proton says to put a few drops of oil in the ASA and then air it up for maintenance. Should I just be pulling the bolt and lubing like a G3?
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yeah completely different gun 
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12-02-2012, 10:00 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SSM, Ontario, Canada
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The proton manual says to do that for Regulator maintenance, not the bolt. You're mixing the two up I believe.
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12-02-2012, 10:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MstrKey
The proton manual says to do that for Regulator maintenance, not the bolt. You're mixing the two up I believe.
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Naaa they knew what I was asking |
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12-03-2012, 10:43 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Washington DC
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12-03-2012, 10:47 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Northern CA
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12-03-2012, 11:11 AM
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Puddle Pirate
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Wilmington NC
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For somone like myself who is getting a G4 in a few days... what type of lube should I be getting? I hear bolt stick is a problem.
This is my frist real marker so I want to make sure I do it right....
take out the bolt... remove all lube from it and add what to it?
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12-03-2012, 11:24 AM
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TechT gun save is the best
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