[katsung47]

Voters say they’re worse off after four years of Obama, so why is Romney struggling?

.By Chris Moody, Yahoo! News 9/19/2012

In the twilight of President Barack Obama's first term, many polls, including a new Quinnipiac University tri-state survey of likely voters, show that most Americans say they are not better off than they were four years ago. But in those same polls, the president retains his edge over challenger Mitt Romney.

That's not normal, says Quinnipiac University pollster Peter A. Brown.

"Most times if voters think things haven't gone well, they say, 'Let's think of somebody else.' But at this point they're not saying that," Brown said. "Clearly they think [Obama] is more in tune with their lives."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/v...-election.html

Why? Because the US is controlled by the Feds. They control the media and election machine. They select the politicians to control the government. That's why even Clinton did a good job in his last term, Bush won the election. What the Feds needed was not a good economy, they need war and the Patriot Act. Several month after his election, 911 happened which satisfied what the Feds needed.

This time, Obama will give the Feds something Romney can't give. So you saw Romney is under the fire of media despite the life of Americans is worse off after four years reign of Obama.

[quakcer]

Because Romney is a ****ty candidate

[StellarKnight]

Originally Posted by katsung47

This time, Obama will give the Feds something Romney can't give.

Anal

[The Inflicted]

Originally Posted by katsung47

Why? Because the US is controlled by the Feds.

Who do you even mean by "the Feds"?

The federal government?
The Federal Reserve Bank?
The FBI?

???

[shakeyjonez]

Romney is a two faced warmonger. With the way the GOP treated Ron Paul and it's blatant disregard and manipulation of Robert's Rules of Order and the Constitution, I say **** him. Let Obama win. If the economy is going to be wrecked by over spending then I'll take food stamps over war any day.

[rT159]

Originally Posted by shakeyjonez

If the economy is going to be wrecked by over spending then I'll take food stamps over war any day.

Lets be real here, it doesn't matter what happens, you'll sit on the couch and watch it from your TV. You protest War, but its not like you're the one ****ing fighting in it. Ever shot at someone?

[quakcer]

Originally Posted by rT159

Ever shot at someone?

Seeing as how this is a paintball forum I think he has.

[shakeyjonez]

Don't even pay that dumb *** any attention. It's all he's after. He's nothing but a keyboard soldier.

[rT159]

A keyboard soldier eh? Sure didn't have a keyboard when I was getting shot at in Afghanistan. Good one though.

[quakcer]

Assuming you're not a liar what's your point?

[shakeyjonez]

Originally Posted by rT159

A keyboard soldier eh? Sure didn't have a keyboard when I was getting shot at in Afghanistan. Good one though.

My hat is off to you if in fact you are telling the truth. I believe our original actions in Afghanistan were justified considering the circumstances. What I don't justify is the needless spending and needless wars. We have people at home that need taken care of before we go out and police the world. **** Obama and Romney I say. They are both big spending pigs. Ron Paul is the only candidate that I support at this time for POTUS. He's a step in the right direction.

[licence2kill]

so you want the government to take care of people without spending any money?

[FreeEnterprise]

Based on the "brilliance" of the posters on forums around the country... The reason Obama is still in this race is the lack of intelligence of the voters of our country.

You guys do realize more people vote for American Idol, than vote for the President...

Wow...

Anyway, Obama promised when he cheated and rammed through Obamacare illegally. That it would lower our insurance costs.

And yet...




I guess that was "bush's" fault or something.

http://news.investors.com/092412-626...-2500-cut.aspx

Ignorance is bliss. And a large portion of our society has no clue about the destructive policies of this administration, and view all government as the same. Well, Obama is giving more and more power to the federal government. With the goal of controlling everything they can. It is no wonder they tell us what light bulbs we are allowed to buy, and what gas we have to put in our tanks, and what schools we must go too.

Regardless of the failures of all of those things.

The clear message is they are smarter than you, and you must comply.

All the regulations that Obamacare is forcing on our country are still being written, thousands of pages so far... These regulations cost you and I money. But, the media ignores this blatant failure, and instead tells us how Romney is attacking the 47% or something.

"During his first run for president, Barack Obama made one very specific promise to voters: He would cut health insurance premiums for families by $2,500, and do so in his first term.

But it turns out that family premiums have increased by more than $3,000 since Obama's vow, according to the latest annual Kaiser Family Foundation employee health benefits survey.

Premiums for employer-provided family coverage rose $3,065 — 24% — from 2008 to 2012, the Kaiser survey found. Even if you start counting in 2009, premiums have climbed $2,370.

What's more, premiums climbed faster in Obama's four years than they did in the previous four under President Bush, the survey data show.

There's no question about what Obama was promising the country, since he repeated it constantly during his 2008 campaign.

In a debate with Sen. John McCain, for example, Obama said "the only thing we're going to try to do is lower costs so that those cost savings are passed onto you. And we estimate we can cut the average family's premium by about $2,500 per year."

At a campaign stop in Columbus, Ohio, in February 2008, Obama promised that "We are going to work with you to lower your premiums by $2,500. We will not wait 20 years from now to do it, or 10 years from now to do it. We will do it by the end of my first term as president."

2008 Promises, 2012 Reality

To back that up, Obama pointed to a memo drafted by Harvard professors (and unpaid campaign advisers), which claimed that investing in health care IT, cutting administrative bloat, and improving management of chronic diseases would cut health costs by $140 billion a year. That would translate into $2,500 in premium savings for families.

But those projections were wildly optimistic, overestimating potential savings from IT, making big assumptions about disease management, and ignoring the fact that past government interventions have always increased health care administrative costs.

Meanwhile, the health reform law Obama signed in March 2010 has pushed up insurance costs.

In 2011, premiums spiked 9.5%, and many in the industry blame ObamaCare for at least part of it. Premiums climbed another 4.5% in 2012, Kaiser found."

[chodeyg]

Id say we're slightly better than four years ago but not by much. So why am I still voting for Obama? Well...

There is currently a worldwide recession affecting just about every economy that was moving. Pretty hard to have economic recovery at home when solid economies in western Europe are struggling. Even China has felt the pinch.

In addition, republicans really followed through with the "I hope he fails" attitude. Immediately there was huge resistance to Obama, I remember even in this forum after a couple months people were asking where's the change. Repubs really shot down every Obama/liberal idea they could-and are now using that forced inaction against him as if he's done nothing to aid the recovery. Even in my state that dbag Rick Scott made sure there was no one cent increase in sales tax to fund public transportation projects, which would have provided a lot of jobs, many temporary but some permanent. Cause you know, sales tax is socialism.

I won't sit here and blame republicans for everything but when you hear about how they complain about the deficit and then sign off on documents to not vote for any increase in taxes, it becomes clear the damage the party of no has done these past couple of years.

At least good ol dubya signed off on the auto bailout. There's a socialist I can drink a beer with.

[The Ralpst]

Originally Posted by FreeEnterprise

Anyway, Obama promised when he cheated and rammed through Obamacare illegally.

Do tell... Apparently a majority House vote and a 60 to 39 senate vote is illegal now. I, for one, am intrigued by this turn of events!

[FreeEnterprise]

The supreme court voted that Obamacare is a tax.

I realize you know this, but all tax bills must come from the House FIRST.

But, Obamacare was built in the Senate. Therefore it isn't a legal bill if it is a tax.

That is why Obama didn't want it to be a tax, before he sent his guys to argue that it was a tax before the court.

Typical liberals...


Scott Brown was elected to stop Obamacare, so the democrats changed the rules and passed it anyway...

[StellarKnight]

The bill that passed in the senate was H.R. 3590, a bill which originated in the House. Shell bills aren't illegal and aren't uncommon; TARP was passed as a shell bill.

Typical conservative, doesn't know how to use the internet.

[FreeEnterprise]

Yeah, taking a bill and gutting it, then writing Obamacare so you can claim it is valid is typical liberal...

Cheat to win.

[F1VENOM]

Originally Posted by quakcer

Because Romney is a ****ty candidate

In a nutshell.

[Overbear]

Originally Posted by shakeyjonez

Romney is a two faced warmonger. With the way the GOP treated Ron Paul and it's blatant disregard and manipulation of Robert's Rules of Order and the Constitution, I say **** him. Let Obama win. If the economy is going to be wrecked by over spending then I'll take food stamps over war any day.

Nothing wrong with war, it thins out the population. Its the flower loving, dirt eating, tree hugging, libtards that we need to send out to play "catch a bullet in the head". Then the country will be in a much better place.

[Overbear]

Originally Posted by rT159

A keyboard soldier eh? Sure didn't have a keyboard when I was getting shot at in Afghanistan. Good one though.

Thank you for your service

Originally Posted by quakcer

Assuming you're not a liar what's your point?

Kid, some day you are going to grow up, look back on comments like this and realise just what a retard you are being.